Is gender dysphoria treatable by surgery?

It’s delusion pal

everyone should watch that video, especially those who are ‘basking in their own self righteous congratulatory progressive indignation’, of which of course there are a handful posting on here.

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sexchangeregret.com

I presume that’s a sort of 9/11 truther/Obama birther type video?

Does Alex Jones make an appearance?

Would such preconceptions sully your ability to take on board the points being made?

Have a read of @anon7035031’s post - he makes a very good point about this ‘debate’.

I did. I don’t want to stigmatise the mentally ill, but it does appear he has a mental illness in relation to this issue.

That’s a nasty post @Sidney. If you’ve nothing to add to the debate, one way or the other, jog on. You might delete it before you do.

Em, the last few posts from both him and you on this subject have been all about branding people as mentally ill, pal.

As far as I can see, a Professor of Psychiatry (edited) has lent weight to this discussion.

Debate why you think it’s otherwise. Maybe stick to facts and avoid personal attacks, as they only weaken your argument.

You’re dealing with the regressive left here pal, they don’t like free speech or dissension from the norms they’ve established in the media.

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Sad to see the usual shower of insecure, homophobic bigots spewing out their hate on Monday morning. Lads, it’s 2016, drag yourselves out of the dark ages and enlighten yourselves.

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the insecurity is dripping off them

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Indeed, and they’ve formed quite a nasty little clique on here.

a lot of them have been groomed by HBV

the current discussion has nothing to do with homophobia kid, and you should acknowledge that before you go any further down the bigot labelling route which is plain daft in this regard.
as the video says transgender is bizarrely lumped in with the LGB crowd. is the insinuation that all ‘transgenders’ are gay also?
the LGB crowd are focused on their right to put their genitals wherever they want without discrimination while the Transgenders simply want their genitals removed. i dont agree with any of it but i can see there is a clear difference.

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One of your lackeys described homosexuality as a mental illness earlier.

I don’t care what people do, think, or how they behave as long as it doesnt affect others.
They can paint themselves purple and make themselves look like a fish should they so desire. I neither know nor care really whether transgender is a state of mind, or a “mental illness” whatever that is. There is no such thing as “normal.” We are all odd.
I do not think transgender reassignment should be paid for out of general taxation, when people on deaths door can’t get a bed, or people dying with cancer are getting slow treatment.

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McHugh, an eightysomething self-described “orthodox” Catholic, who shut down Johns Hopkins’ pioneering Gender Identity Clinic in the 1970s after a single study suggested that some trans people continued to suffer from adjustment challenges after surgery, has a storied history of using his credentialed respectability to peddle the worst, most discredited, myths about gay and transgender people. He has called homosexuality an “erroneous desire,” filed an amicus brief to the Supreme Court in opposition to marriage equality, casts transgender women as “caricatures” of real women, and has argued that the Catholic Church’s sex abuse scandal is the result not of covering up pedophiles but of insufficiently rooting out gay people. In short, he is a dinosaur from an era when psychiatrists relied on narrow, clinical assessments to assert broad generalizations about a whole class of people based on studying the small number who came to them because they already had mental health problems.

Some LGBTQ advocates have suggested that the McHugh op-ed should never have been published, arguing that the Journal is “promoting someone who has dedicated most of his career [to] opposing the findings of medical associations” on LGBTQ issues. Of course, running an op-ed is not the same as “promoting” its author, although even op-eds are (or used to be) fact-checked, and standards ought to disqualify pieces that rely on erroneous information or intellectually dishonest assertions. The McHugh piece probably qualifies as intellectually dishonest, because, whether or not his intent was malicious, his selective reading of the research on transgender experience and mental health presents a hugely lopsided picture of reality—a clear exercise in nudging the data to fit a preconceived bias.

Still, it’s more effective to debunk his claims than to censor the op-ed. Genetics researcher Mari Brighe has done a great job of this over at TransAdvocate, so I’ll simply summarize her capable take-down: The single study McHugh cites for opposing gender-confirming surgery is nearly 40 years old, and he misreads its conclusions, failing to note that its authors explicitly state that “no inferences can be drawn as to the effectiveness of sex reassignment” in improving the lives of transgender people; McHugh ignores a growing (though still small) body of evidence suggesting that medical transition has a positive impact on the wellbeing of transgender people; and he ignores the most obvious reality that would explain why post-operative transgender folks might still struggle with mental health challenges: the ongoing prejudice, stigma, discrimination, economic instability, and violence they face as transgender people. None of this is helped by McHugh’s careless and groundless generalizations.

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@ironmoth must be absolutely reeling from that clamping.