Heād fuck it all up. Heās spent his life avoiding work and responsibility. Heās the sort of sneaky liability that manoeuvres himself into a role, gets found out and then makes himself easier to promote than dismiss.
Heās the proof that low cunning sometimes defeats high intelligence.
The dup would be delighted with him.
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I donāt get that line of thought, he has far more integrity than 99.9% of UK politicians and is a friend of republicans. I donāt get why you hate him so much, youād swear the UK is blessed with capable politicians. Most of the Labour Party are alcoholics or closet Tories, Jezza stands out a mile.
You just have to look in his eyes
Lolz, he has āintegrityā for a select few causes.
Graeme Souness won most of his trophies with a financially doped team in the Scottish League and proceeded to dismantle one of Liverpoolās best ever teams and reduce the club to mediocrity. Weāre still trying to overcome his disastrous legacy 25 years after he left.
Mick McCarthy has won two English Championships and is Eireās greatest ever manager.
Heās been a success in every job heās ever been in.
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Youāll forever excuse mediocrity for something that catches your eye.
I wouldnāt excuse you, mate, and your posts donāt catch the eye.
He was a joke figure in Italy too after his disastrous spell with Torino in Serie B.
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Thatās what I said.
He was Joe Hart before Joe Hart was Joe Hart.
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Nicely self-clamped, mate. 
Corbyn was always an EU sceptic, yet heās going to turn his back on his core beliefs and get a 2nd referendum through the door. All the while Thersea May who is pro EU and is ātryingā her best to get the Brits out keeps making a balls of it.
You couldnāt make that up. Or could you? Or are you so distracted by right and left āviewsā that youāre not able to think rationally.
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Thereās no support for socialism in Ireland pal, north or south, even Sein Fein have abandoned it.
Iām a socialist.
Iām not denying that youāre a loon mate.
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Being an EU sceptic is a legitimate position. The position now is that any actual defined version of Brexit has proved to be both unworkable and unwanted, and going back to the people is logical.
The Kyle amendment which would pass Mayās deal on the proviso that it has to go to a referendum is the best way through this mess.
The 2016 referendum was a contest between one defined option and one utterly undefined option - a fantasy, an aspiration, unicorns. Such a referendum always held the prospect of the total chaos that occurred and that is why it should never have been held. The irony now is that another referendum that reverses the result is the best way out.
I donāt believe May was ever pro-EU. I think she literally believes in nothing other than what she thinks is popular. I think she believes in literally nothing other than being in power for being in powerās sake. She is empty and vacuous.
Thatās why she brought in the disgusting so called āhostile environmentā and shifted to being an arch-Brexiteer as soon as the result of the referendum was known. She has indulged the fantasies of the hard Brexiteer set at every single opportunity right from the off, knowing full well they could never be delivered, because they were firmly divorced from reality. But it must have felt good at the time, or something.
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Isnt democracy dead though when youāve to keep repeating the same referendum over and over again until you get the right vote, like our Lisbon referendum. Brexit doesnt suit us here at all obviously, but they voted out, they should go out. Beef/dairy farmers (who are the most exposed) will be grand here and there will never be a hard border with the North. There will be no tariffs of consequence eitherā¦are the Germans going to stop selling their cars to the Brits, not a hope. Key thing really is, the EU project is failingā¦weāve done reasonably well out of it granted, but at the same time the EU threw us under a bus of USC taxes for the forseeable future and our kids future to bail out the bondholders et al. That doesnt sit well with me personally. Saying that I dont think we should or could afford to ever leave.
There will be no new referendum, the UK will leave. Another referendum which overturns the first (as it undoubtedly would) would cause divisions in England that would take a generation or two to heal. Both major parties know that. The EU is fucked, the economy is entering a recession just at the time you have rising populism already. After the UK, Italy, Greece and then France will leave and then itās all over.
More democracy cannot by definition be anti-democratic.
The 2016 referendum was a sham as far as democracy goes - i) it threw out the UKās system of parliamentary sovereignty, ii) the Leave campaign flagrantly broke funding laws and iii) the Leave campaign shamelessly bombarded Britain with a torrent of outright lies and fantasies.
The EU is not failing, itās been the most successsful multi-national bloc in history. Thereās a reason why others, such as Turkey, are clamouring to get in.
Anarcho-capitalists and kleptocrats such as Putin and his poodle Trump want to destroy it because they want to destroy all regulation and social protection and particularly in Putinās case, he wants a world in which multi-national blocs no longer exist because he wants to eliminate opposition to Russia asserting its military power on the global stage and in former Soviet territories. Putin wants Russiaās empire back.
The EU gives Ireland strength in numbers. Without it, we would be nothing.
What the Brits are doing is akin to a country having a collective nervous breakdown similar to whatās going on with Trump supporters in the US.
If they leave, theyāll find that they are a pawn on the global stage.
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Your argument as to why there should be no second referendum is literally āthe fash would wreck the country, so they should be given in toā.
That isnāt an argument for not holding a second referendum and itās also entirely in keeping with your obvious pro-fascist tendencies.