Because how often did you look at the FAI accounts until now?
People are confusing the financial statements with the books. The money can be recorded perfectly and still not appear in the published financial statements for various reasons. So not being a handy one-liner in a PDF you can view doesnât mean it wasnât put through the books.
According to the FAI it had been accounted for in their annual accounts.
[QUOTE=âRocko, post: 1153635, member: 1â]The reaction to John Delaney confirming the receipt of the money from FIFA is strange. It began with outrage on Twitter, fuelled by misunderstandings, gathered pace from there and has culminated in a series of articles this morning that are completely misreading the situation.
There were those outraged because John Delaney had done something and they couldnât quite work out what it was. But they were angry because others seemed to be. Self-appointed voice of the fans, YBIG, fell into this category, completely unable to articulate what it was exactly that had them ired, but John Delaney was trending and they were seething at something as a result.
There were those who called the payment a bribe. There seemed to be some original misguided assumption that Delaney had received the money personally. When that wasnât the case, the label bribe hasnât gone away. Cathal Devan in the Sun is leading that charge. Itâs always a good idea to run a million miles from any public declaration from Cathal Dervan.
And then you have otherwise seemingly sane people who believe the FAI sold us out by accepting money. Henry Winter has a preposterous article in the Independent (and Telegraph) calling the FAIâs actions a âbetrayal.â Apparently, we will never âforget our disgust at Thierry Henryâs cheating and the Frenchmanâs attempt to console heartbroken players like Richard Dunne.â
I thought we were told moved on as a nation since then. And then we have the aforementioned YBIG naively exclaiming excitement at this wonderful piece from Winter. Are we really that bitter about the handball since? Apparently so. Itâs an embarrassing reaction. It was embarrassing then and itâs embarrassing now. Frankly, getting âŹ5m for the hardship does nothing to dilute that but it is âŹ5m more than anyone could really expect the FAI to wrangle out of FIFA for a referee making a poor decision.
Winter, egged on by the morons on Twitter, goes further in his article. âThat hush money must feel like blood money⌠[Henryâs] unpunished offence handling the ball twice towards William Gallas to score and take France to the 2010 World Cup finals, was rightly deemed a crime against players like Dunne, against their own (magnificent and vocal) support and against the sport itself.â This is a serious journalist apparently, and weâre talking about crimes and using the Irish support for a nonsensical emotional appeal.
And then Winter joins the bandwagon of those who seem to believe, rather ridiculously, that Ireland still had a route to the World Cup Finals after losing out over two legs.
âThe talk that night was of a replay. Take the money? Thatâs laughable, contemptible, inconceivable. How could anyone with any soul or simple respect for their fellow-man put a price on the heartache suffered by Dunne, those fabulous fans and a sport craving probity? How could the FAI consider with a straight face investing that Fifa âloanâ into any stadium used by players who dream of reaching a World Cup?â
A replay was never on the cards. Itâs an absurd notion. A legal case would have failed dismally. Obviously.
But this story got defined on social media initially when there was an outpouring of misunderstood reactions and has gathered pace from there. There are few actually taking stock of the fact that the FAI getting âŹ5m from FIFA towards the Aviva Stadium actually represents a good negotiation. A legal case would have been disruptive and bad publicity for FIFA but would have had zero chance of success.
Ireland were offered a FIFA Fair Play Award and âŹ5m for the disappointment at losing out to that poor refereeing decision, seemingly the only one in the history of football. The FAI declined the award and accepted the money. Any Chief Executive who had done the opposite shouldnât really be in charge of an organisation.[/QUOTE]
Outstanding post.
Obviously didnât pay him enough seeing as Delaney got the ball rolling in removing President Blatter
Flesh that out a bit there Rocko.
Thatâs that explained so,
They just wrote off the loan. It was âcontingentâ on Ireland qualifying for Brazil apparently.
[QUOTE=âRocko, post: 1153684, member: 1â]Because how often did you look at the FAI accounts until now?
People are confusing the financial statements with the books. The money can be recorded perfectly and still not appear in the published financial statements for various reasons. So not being a handy one-liner in a PDF you can view doesnât mean it wasnât put through the books.[/QUOTE]
Iâm not confusing anything. You are disregarding all prior evidence of the faiâs reluctance to discuss accounts as Iâve mentioned.
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/national-league/answers-at-a-premium-at-fai-agm-1.1879778
Save your patronising tone for crottyâs ladyboys please.
[QUOTE=âRocko, post: 1153635, member: 1â]The reaction to John Delaney confirming the receipt of the money from FIFA is strange. It began with outrage on Twitter, fuelled by misunderstandings, gathered pace from there and has culminated in a series of articles this morning that are completely misreading the situation.
There were those outraged because John Delaney had done something and they couldnât quite work out what it was. But they were angry because others seemed to be. Self-appointed voice of the fans, YBIG, fell into this category, completely unable to articulate what it was exactly that had them ired, but John Delaney was trending and they were seething at something as a result.
There were those who called the payment a bribe. There seemed to be some original misguided assumption that Delaney had received the money personally. When that wasnât the case, the label bribe hasnât gone away. Cathal Devan in the Sun is leading that charge. Itâs always a good idea to run a million miles from any public declaration from Cathal Dervan.
And then you have otherwise seemingly sane people who believe the FAI sold us out by accepting money. Henry Winter has a preposterous article in the Independent (and Telegraph) calling the FAIâs actions a âbetrayal.â Apparently, we will never âforget our disgust at Thierry Henryâs cheating and the Frenchmanâs attempt to console heartbroken players like Richard Dunne.â
I thought we were told moved on as a nation since then. And then we have the aforementioned YBIG naively exclaiming excitement at this wonderful piece from Winter. Are we really that bitter about the handball since? Apparently so. Itâs an embarrassing reaction. It was embarrassing then and itâs embarrassing now. Frankly, getting âŹ5m for the hardship does nothing to dilute that but it is âŹ5m more than anyone could really expect the FAI to wrangle out of FIFA for a referee making a poor decision.
Winter, egged on by the morons on Twitter, goes further in his article. âThat hush money must feel like blood money⌠[Henryâs] unpunished offence handling the ball twice towards William Gallas to score and take France to the 2010 World Cup finals, was rightly deemed a crime against players like Dunne, against their own (magnificent and vocal) support and against the sport itself.â This is a serious journalist apparently, and weâre talking about crimes and using the Irish support for a nonsensical emotional appeal.
And then Winter joins the bandwagon of those who seem to believe, rather ridiculously, that Ireland still had a route to the World Cup Finals after losing out over two legs.
âThe talk that night was of a replay. Take the money? Thatâs laughable, contemptible, inconceivable. How could anyone with any soul or simple respect for their fellow-man put a price on the heartache suffered by Dunne, those fabulous fans and a sport craving probity? How could the FAI consider with a straight face investing that Fifa âloanâ into any stadium used by players who dream of reaching a World Cup?â
A replay was never on the cards. Itâs an absurd notion. A legal case would have failed dismally. Obviously.
But this story got defined on social media initially when there was an outpouring of misunderstood reactions and has gathered pace from there. There are few actually taking stock of the fact that the FAI getting âŹ5m from FIFA towards the Aviva Stadium actually represents a good negotiation. A legal case would have been disruptive and bad publicity for FIFA but would have had zero chance of success.
Ireland were offered a FIFA Fair Play Award and âŹ5m for the disappointment at losing out to that poor refereeing decision, seemingly the only one in the history of football. The FAI declined the award and accepted the money. Any Chief Executive who had done the opposite shouldnât really be in charge of an organisation.[/QUOTE]
what a post
guys scrambling around fault finding in Mr Delaney getting 5m for Irish football
bizarre
Why would it be âamortisedâ over 2 years if it was all repayable if they qualified for the 2014 World Cup? I could see why it would be written off in 2014 alright but why might you amortise it before then or in two chunks?
What a treacherous cunt this Delaney is.
FAI take âŹ5m from Blatter to keep onside and a couple of years later the same FAI are putting the boot into Blatter just as he is on his last legs.
What use is a fucking bastard like John Delaney if he can be so easily bought but puts an expiry date on his for how long.
A sneaky cunt. Would any of the other business men on here see value in a turncoat fucker like this in their boardroom?
[QUOTE=âThe Selfish Giant, post: 1153696, member: 80â]what a post
guys scrambling around fault finding in Mr Delaney getting 5m for Irish football
bizarre[/QUOTE]
64.75% of soccerball players in Delaneys jurisdiction tog out under hedges, kid.
Yeah surely it would have been just plugged in as a loan term obligation. Would it have to be disclosed?
I always liked the word âamortiseâ
Yes itâs one of those words that the accounting chaps love because they think that the man in the street will never figure out what it means and will just bugger off rather than ask any more questions.
" oh ya, we just amortised that money "
" grand so "
Iâm no fan of John Delaney but it has to be said this was an outstanding piece of business on the FAIâs part. Essentially he seems to have hustled âŹ5 million out of FIFA when the FAI had no case or even a leg to stand on. Presumably this is the kind of bluff that goes on, on the doorsteps of the courts every day of the week.
So you must think Jack Warner is a great man altogether?
I donât think anyone believes it was business in the conventional sense @Manuel Zelaya. Only the utterly gormless would be taken in by the suggestion that a body as worldly and venal as FIFA they were settling a legal claim here.
Completely different case. Warner it would appear was all about personal gain. John Delaney was only looking out for the best interest of the FAI.
does Delaney gain anything personal from being top dog in irish soccer?
apart from the luxery of being able to walk away from his missus and into the arms of a beautiful blonde