EhâŠ
I respect your opinion but nothing you say will make me think that lad isnt juiced up to his gills. Maybe he doesnât realise it but I doubt heâs that stupid either. They should just let them all use drugs at this stage and see how ridiculous it could get
Armstrong promised the same.
Just appreciate this Tour for what it is, mate. A US Postal reincarnation taking the piss. Itâs quite exciting in its own way.
Well thatâs a first on here. Respect someoneâs opinion. :-0
The doctors and/or scientists have got ahead of the testers again. Sorry to say but there is no way Froome and Sky can be that good. And believe me, I want them to be clean. But it doesnât add up. They have found away around the testers or whatever it is the riders are being tested on.
Shame.
Well done Dan Martin today though.
You havenât
Excuse me, but,TFK prides itself on our hospitable attitude, our informed and reasoned discussions on matters sporting and cultural and our ability to see past personal differences in the interests of the greater good.
Now fall in, alright?
Contador, Nibali, Valverde and Quintana have all attacked on the Plateau de Beille and Richie Porte and then Geraint Thomas just casually reeled each of them in within a couple of hundred metres as if they were out for a Sunday spin in the Phoenix Park.
Itâs deja vu all over again, Sid.
The lad who has the white jersey looks like heâs about 40
Some spectator threw a cup of urine at Froome and called him a doper.
Just saw an interview with Froome, he was absolutely seething.
Badly rattled.
Racist!
Tour de France leader Chris Froome would be well advised to invite questions
Sir Dave Brailsford is credited as one of the principal architects in transforming Great Britainâs track fortunes over the last decade and can now claim to have replicated that on the road with Team Sky.
After a sensational season for British cycling in 2012 - which saw Team Sky capture a one-two finish at the Tour de France before going on to win eight gold medals at the London Olympic Games - Brailsford faced the task of sustained success in 2013. The results followed, with a second consecutive Tour de France victory ensuring Team Sky did twice in four seasons what they had originally set out to do once in four.
-Team Sky website
The interview had entered its fourth hour and having regaled me with tales of his unlikely rise from an office job in Gwynedd County Council to the helm of British Cycling, Dave Brailsford was selling me his vision for Sky, a new professional cycling team, and his five-year plan to win the Tour de France with a clean British rider.
But there was a hitch - I wasnât ready to buy and his brow was suddenly furrowed. âYou seem a bit anti,â he observed. âNo, not anti, you seem very . . . sceptical.â
âIâm amazed that should surprise you,â I smiled.
He handed me a copy of the teamâs recruitment strategy - a huge tome that must have weighed half a ton - and impressed on me that Sky would be different
Roger Palfreeman, the chief medical officer at British Cycling, would lead an internal testing programme.
The team would only employ British doctors, have a zero tolerance of doping and would not employ anyone who had been associated with doping. The staff would be âenthusiastic and positive, fit and healthy, and willing to try new thingsâ.
A week later we exchanged some text messages:
Me: âIs there a difference in doing the right thing and being seen to do the right thing?â
Him: âGood point - the only way is to do the right thing regardless of being seen or not.â
Me: âJust thinking out loud.â
Him: âI agree with your thoughts but it is hopefully the one thing I will do, ie have a value-and-belief system and actually live by it.â
But some of the staff he had hired (and would later fire) had obviously been associated with doping and I wasnât convinced.
Nine months later, in May 2010, he offered me complete and unrestricted access to the team for the Tour de France. The first in a series of behind-the-scenes exclusives started with an interview with Bradley Wiggins during a training camp in the Pyrenees. âBetter to have you inside the tent looking out, then outside the tent looking in,â he grinned.
The boy does have a sense of humour.
The Tour started in Rotterdam that year. I booked a motorhome, caught a ferry from Harwich and sat down for a pre-arranged meeting with Brailsford at the team hotel on the eve of the race. He wasnât happy. My trip to the Pyrenees had âmade the lads edgyâ and he had decided to review the terms of the agreement - the complete and unrestricted access could not begin before Thursday.
âBut thatâs almost a third of the race,â I protested.
âI know,â he said. âBut I still think we can make this work.â
âHow will it work?â
âWhy donât you sleep on it,â he said.
One of his riders, Michael Barry, was a former team-mate of Lance Armstrong and had just been implicated by Floyd Landis. I met Brailsford the following evening and suggested a compromise: âIâll stay out of the team for a week if you let me sit down with Michael Barry.â
âNo, I canât agree to that,â he smiled.
âIâve just watched him give an interview to the BBC?â
âNo, it might destabilise the team.â
âDave, put yourself in my shoes for a moment,â I implored. âWhat credibility would I have as a journalist if I spent three weeks with your team on the Tour de France and did not talk to Michael Barry?â
âNo credibility,â he agreed.
Three months earlier, Roger Palfreeman, a cornerstone of Brailsfordâs anti-doping strategy, left the team. I asked Brailsford in Rotterdam why the press had not been informed? He seemed puzzled. âHe was never part of Team Sky,â he explained. âHe worked for British Cycling.â
I asked him for Palfreemanâs number; he told me he didnât have one. âBut if I can get hold of him, Iâll give him your number and he can call you.â
Three months later, in October 2010, Geert Leinders - a Belgian doctor who has now been banned for life from the sport - joined the team.
"We agreed as a team that if a rider, suffering from asthma, got into trouble with pollen we would pull him out of the race rather than apply for a therapeutic use exemption on his behalf."
-Dr Steve Peters,âInside Team Skyâ by David Walsh
Few people had ever heard of Chris Froome after his first season with Sky in 2010. Born in Kenya to British parents, he had turned professional in 2007 with a small South African team and progressed steadily through the ranks - 83rd in the 2008 Tour de France, 36th in the 2009 Giro dâItalia - before joining Sky.
Those first months with the team were a struggle. On the 19th stage of the Giro dâItalia, he was disqualified for holding onto a motorbike (he had injured his knee and planned to abandon) and a year later the team were not renewing his contract until an outstanding performance (second) in the Tour of Spain.
The reason for the transformation? Bilharzia, a water-borne parasitic disease transferred by microscopic snails that he contracted while swimming during a visit to his father in Africa. The parasite had been attacking his red blood cells and draining him for months until a treatment - Biltracide - was found.
In 2012, he finished second behind Wiggins in the Tour de France and second in the Olympic time trial. A year later, he won almost every time he pinned a number on and arrived in Corsica as the stand-out favourite for the Tour.
The first major showdown of the race was the eighth stage from Castres to the Pyrenean ski resort of Ax 3 Domaines. One minute and ten seconds separated the (ten) favourites that morning as they rolled out of Castres but Froome had destroyed them - and the race - when they reached the summit finish.
A week later, on the slopes of Mont Ventoux, Froome blitzed the field again but it was the first Tour since the fall of Lance Armstrong and questions were being raised: How had a mild-mannered Kenyan with an ordinary pedigree, and an ugly racing style, delivered one of the greatest performances of all time?
One of those asking questions was a former team (Festina) coach and physiologist, Antoine Veyer: âOn the Ventoux, Froome was the same as Armstrong and Pantani. Iâve asked Sky: help me to believe you; help me to defend you, put everything on the table - his (power) data, his VO2, his blood values. You have nothing to hide.â
Gerard Guillaume, the team doctor at FDJ, also expressed reservations: âThe thing that concerns me about Froome is how thin he is - you should lose muscle when you drop below a certain weight. And Sky are talking about releasing his data to the World Anti-Doping Agency but they are only going to give what suits them.â
Froome rode the storm to the Champs-Ă©lysĂ©es but things got worse in 2014, when he was photographed sucking from an inhaler before going on the attack to win the second stage of the Criterium de Dauphine in June. âWhere had the asthma come from?â the sceptics wondered. âHeâs never mentioned that before.â
Then, five days later, a French newspaper, Le Journal du Dimanche, ran a story alleging that the sports governing body had ignored its own rules in granting Froome a TUE (Therapeutic Use Exemption) for prednisone, a glucocortisteroid, during the Tour of Romandie in April.
Froome had been struggling with a chest infection and applied for the TUE when his doctor noticed him coughing after the opening stage. No rules were broken but many observers were alarmed. The abuse of glucocortisteroids has been rampant in the sport for years and Sky had earned plaudits for their policy of withdrawing sick riders from competition, rather than apply for the TUEâs.
What was going on? Had that policy, like so many others, suddenly changed?
A few days later, I requested an interview with Froome and (against the advice of his team) he agreed. I liked him. He wasnât aggressive or menacing like Armstrong and gave a couple of answers the team would have hated:
He knew Geert Leinders had come from a doping past.
(The team had no idea.)
He had used the painkiller, Tramadol.
(The team denied it.)
And he had just started working with Tim Kerrison at Sky.
(The team attributed everything to the performance director.)
Two questions intrigued me: the first was about his astonishing transformation in the 2011 Tour of Spain.
PK: There were flags raised in the team about your performance. Did anyone from the team ever raise this with you at all?
CF: No.
PK: Nobody asked: âWhatâs going on here, boy?â
CF: No, never.
PK: Now this parasite (Bilharzia) attacks your red blood cells?
CF: Yeah.
PK: Richard Freeman (a Team Sky doctor) told David Walsh that your performances had tripped an alarm in his head. He looked at your (blood) profiles and there was no inconsistency. But if youâve had a parasite attacking your red cells, surely there should be (some inconsistency). Surely that should show up?
CF: I would imagine so. I donât know what the blood passport looks like. Iâve never looked into it . . . Logic says your red blood cells would be lower because your haematocrit is being eaten by those parasites . . . Iâd imagine if it was outside the (normal) parameters questions would have been asked.
The second was about his seeming refusal to submit himself to tests:
PK: Thereâs a tirade of noise on social media asking: âWhy wonât he do a VO2 test?â And experts like Antoine Veyer saying he has asked but the team has refused. I donât understand why youâre not banging on his door saying: âAntoine, whatâs the problem here? How can I help? Show me the bike and Iâll do the test. What other questions do you have?â
CF: Whatâs going to be gained from a VO2 test other than being submissive to people who are basically just going to use that in one way or another to try and prove their point?
PK: You say, âWhy should I be submissive?â What do you have to lose?
CF: Yeah, maybe it is something we would look at doing one day . . . I mean, people with really low VO2s have been amazing bike riders. And people with high VOs have been useless bike riders, so itâs not a measure the team uses. Iâve definitely never done a VO2 max test with the team.
PK: And you donât see the point in doing one just to shut these people up?
CF: At some point I probably will.
PK: Do one next week before the Tour.
(He laughs.)
The interview ended. We shook hands and I offered him some advice: âStart every press conference you do for the next year with an invitation to the journalists to ask questions about doping. And sit down with Veyer and do everything he asks.â
He did not take that advice, and this week it came back to bite him . . .
Tour de France leader Chris Froome has said he is willing to undergo physiological tests after this yearâs race to put to rest any suspicion of doping. The Briton astonished rivals and pundits on Tuesdayâs 10th stage with a brutal attack in the final climb that left him nearly three minutes clear of his closest rival in the overall classification.
Perhaps a million words have been written since Froomeâs win on Tuesday on the poisonous mistrust that has afflicted the Tour: climbing speeds and power rates and physiologists interpreting numbers; bloggers running scared and lawyers issuing writs; old pros asking questions they have never asked before; racers blaming journalists.
âItâs getting to the point where some of the journalists who are whipping up the rubbish that they are, need to be accountable for our safety a little bit as well,â Froomeâs team-mate, Richie Porte, said on Friday.
âDo I deserve to be booed? Does Chris Froome deserve all this? I donât think so. Maybe in ten yearsâ time theyâre going to see these victories are legitimate. Itâs a disgrace how some of these people carry on.â
Thanks Richie, youâll be waiting for an apology.
And what are we to make of the return of Roger Palfreeman and yesterdayâs curious report in The Times: "His arrival will provide confidence in the zero tolerance anti-doping policy adopted by Sir Dave Brailsford, Skyâs team principal, and in an interview yesterday, Palfreeman talked about the internal procedures used by Sky to eliminate the dangers of drug-taking among its riders and staff, as well as about innovations in drug-taking that the sport needs to head off in the future.
âI am absolutely confident in the cleanness of Team Sky,â Palfreeman said. âThe procedures are the strongest in the sport and the culture, which I have seen close up, gives you huge confidence.â
Perhaps Roger, but weâve heard all that before.
The only thing that can save this sport is transparency.
A beautiful filleting
As an aside, I once cycled with Steve Cummings. Spent a day in the hills in north Wales with him and two other lads. Didnât see a who,e hape of him mind you even though he was doing a warm down before the Giro.
There is nothing at all in that. Iâm open minded about froome, but that is a puff piece. Iâm surprised ye find anything in it.
Youâre open minded about a lad who climbs mountains as fast as lads who have detailed the drugs they were on when they rode those times.
You think Froome is riding panne y agua?
Fucking hell.
I like him. I am open to the possibility that he is clean.