Is the wording of the black card & penalty rule the issue? Doesnât it mention drag or pull down? OâHanlonâs first half foul was cynical but it was a hold to stop Keoghan running in on goal rather than something where the attacker ended up on the ground. But the referee shouldnât be manufacturing a penalty later on because of the first one. I was also irked by Reid twirling & flopping into players on his fifth or sixth step & getting pointed frees twice in the second half. Didnât Liam Gordon play to a decent level? Youâd think heâd be wise to a wily veteran whose legs have gone doing that. Kilkenny had some poor wides but Wexford outscored them 2-14 to 0-11 from play & still lost. A touch of the 2018 game in Nowlan Park where we had a healthy first half lead & were diddled by a referee in the second half whose baseline for giving attackers frees was completely different depending on which half of the field the incident occurred in. But lookit itâs only stick hurling & an outlet for boggers & confused urban people so it doesnât actually matter.
Keoghan made that decision to keep going and trusted his strength. Donât be silly.
And if he fell to the ground then yes, it would.be a penalty
Just watching KK v Wex highlights. That KK penalty decision was shocking by Gordon.
He gives the black card and there probably arenât too many complaints.
We didnât need to foul there.
We go to foul way to easily. It has been a feature this season.
We also conceded far too many puck outs 50/60m from the KK goal.
This cost us 3 or 4 points when the cunts weâre on the rack.
Kilkenny people would never think of Wexford supporters or their hurling teams as cunts. Some support at the game today, no bother in the ground nor in the pub afterwards.
I always had Hogan down as an alright sort but heâs been fairly condescending towards Wexford in his GAA Go analysis all season. He trotted out the lazy punditry line that Wexford only play well against Kilkenny before they proceeded to walk all over Galway in that resounding 8 point victory a few weeks ago. No mention of how Galway could have been vulnerable to an ambush and were no great shakes themselves. Tried to detract from Lee Chinâs brilliance a bit on Newstalk during the week as well. A kind of âheâs been grand butâŠâŠâ line that wasnât necessary. What was he saying today? He seems to have an irrational disdain for Wexford.
I watched the game on the phone. Bit of amateur hour from GAA Go as they momentarily lost coverage of the game at a crucial juncture early in the second-half. It returned just in time for me to see TJ Reid standing over a penalty while I queued for a burger in 5 Guys.
Would Galway not have been one of the original purveyors? That Polish S and C coach, G Mac, Johnny Glynn, Conor Whelan becoming bulked. Galway were huge physical specimens when they peaked around 2017/18.
Ah stop. You can see Burke eyeing Whitely up for the hit. A slightly harsh red but it was a cheap shot. The ball was well gone and Whitely was wide open.
Iâd say there will be 40k at it. Hopefully the county board push it with group passes etc.
Whiteley jumped into him.
I would say the number of Dublin supporters there yesterday was about the same as the squad and backroom, an Iâm not joking.
Yeah laughable comment. Galway 2017 one of the biggest teams to win an all Ireland. All their forwards over 6 foot.
Youâre a gas man flatty! Considering some comments about the tackle on the Galway player where âduty of careâ, âcould easily have mitigated itâ, âleading with the shoulderâ, was all said, to now come out and blame the Dublin player for getting cleaned out of it is some one eyed commentary!
For what its worth, I dont think it was a red, but he gave the ref a choice to make when he didnt have to make that tackle at all. He lined him up with no intent other than to clean him out of it and got a red as a result. Heâs lucky he didnt make more connection with the head and only has himself to blame for putting himself in that position.
Somebody please throw up that Brian Gavin clownâs weekly takedown of his former colleagues.
Brian Gavin: Red card for Galwayâs David Burke was wrong and Kilkenny penalty was mystifying
Pushing the use of technology to assist referees really should be a pressing matter for Cork now having felt the sting of that call in the Munster U20 final.
Referee Colm Lyons shows a red card to David Burke of Galway during the Leinster SHC against Kilkenny at Nowlan Park. Picture: ©INPHO/Ben Brady
SUN, 26 MAY, 2024 - 20:32
Calling it straight, I wouldnât have sent off David Burke in Pearse Stadium on Sunday.
Not because it was a massive decision that had a crucial bearing on what may as well have been a knock-out game but because I saw no intent in him to injure Fergal Whitely.
Burke went to hit the Dublin man with his shoulder but mistimed it and the two helmets collided. The sound of that and the ball being passed wouldnât have helped Burkeâs cause and Colm Lyons probably had his mind made up on it before consulting with his linesman.
It seemed like Lyons was taking his time but his body language suggested he had a red card in his mind but I felt he rushed that decision. The margin between connecting shoulder with shoulder was so tight and the challenge was neither reckless nor dangerous.
To be fair to Lyons, he gave great advantage for Dublinâs second goal scored by Donal Burke and he would have to be in the running for one of the provincial final appointments coming up on Sunday week.
Liam Gordon, however, didnât do himself a great favour awarding Kilkenny a penalty for a foul on Eoin Cody outside the square. It was a mystifying call and it really should have been a simple free-in to Kilkenny. But TJ Reid converted the penalty and the goal was the difference in the end.
Referee Liam Gordon during the Leinster SHC clash between Kilkenny and Wexford. Picture: ©INPHO/Laszlo Geczo
Kilkenny actually had a greater shout for a penalty in the first half when Matthew OâHanlon brought down Martin Keoghan but it wasnât forthcoming.
Later in the afternoon, Michael Kennedy was the man in the middle for a tough assignment in TUS Gaelic Grounds. The majority of calls heâs got right and heâs a referee going in the right direction, one who doesnât panic and I think he is going to be around in the long run.
He upset Limerick fans in the first half when GearĂłid Hegarty was through on goal but the foul on him was an accidental one, not a deliberate infringement. DĂłnal Ăg Cusack claimed on The Sunday Game that it was a black card offence but he got that completely wrong.
Kyle Hayes was fortunate not to be punished for a swinging hurl in the first half but Kennedy was right not to buy Tom Morrisseyâs attempt to get Jack Prendergast in trouble. Kennedy played it cool and made the correct call to move on.
I mentioned Lyons being a live contender for a provincial final but for Munster I believe Thomas Walsh is the best placed to take charge. Munster finals have been so difficult to handle in recent years but Walsh has the temperament for an occasion like that and deserves a crack at it.
On Saturday, I read Enda McEvoyâs column in this newspaper and I found myself agreeing with a lot of what he wrote about the throws and number of steps that players are now being allowed to take in the game.
Is it time to just do away with steps totally and give players three seconds to run with the ball in hand? It might go some way towards alleviating what is a real issue in the game. Players are taking more and more chances that referees arenât going to whistle them for it and in championship hurling few officials want to be seen as nitpickers even though they are the rules.
Unfortunately we had another ghost goal in Fridayâs U20 Munster hurling final. Cork were on the receiving end of it this time and itâs hard to believe neither of the two umpires saw that the ball had hit the top of the net.
Corkâs Cillian Tobin dejected at the end of the Munster U20 hurling final. Picture: ©INPHO/Ken Sutton
Iâve called for video technology to be used in live televised games so that for the sake of 20 seconds a referee can be informed that an error had been made. Restrict them to red card incidents and goals if you want but it should come in.
Can you have any sympathy for counties who suffer like this if theyâre not prepared to bring forward a motion to Congress? After the 65 that wasnât in 2019, Limerick, to be fair to them, did call for video technology. This is going to be a talking point again in this championship and future ones if weâre not prepared to do what is right for the game and use the technology that is already there. That is replays and slow motion. Give the referee the benefit of what we have as viewers at home.
We were able to bring in HawkEye but for some reason the GAA has refrained from doing it for goals and sendings off. It really should be a pressing matter for Cork now having [felt the sting of that call.]
Later in that game, a Cork player was pulled to the ground and there were shouts for a black card when itâs not active in the U20 grade. There were cries on social media about it but people simply donât know the rules. I wouldnât blame them completely. Not enough is being done to stress what does and what doesnât apply in the under-age grades.
Would have to agree with this. It wasnât a red. But Davy should know better than to give Lyons a decision to make. 80%-90% of the time he wonât be sent off for that. Lyons couldnât wait to give it. Only shame from our point of view is that our goose was cooked once Burke was sent off.
No complaint re the result. Dublin hurled very well. I wish them and MD well in the Leinster final.
Like Kyle Hayes a few weeks ago. He put it in the refs hands ⊠The fact that every other referee has ignored this rule over multiple games since is irrelevant. He gave the ref the chance to do him, like the Galway yesterday