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Let’s All Laugh At Rangers Thread

Let’s keep an eye on the enemy in this thread over the course of the season.

Huns team for the CL qualifier last night was:

McGregor;
Hutton; Weir; Cuellar; Papac;
McCulloch; Ferguson; Hemdani; Adam;
Boyd; Darcheville;

They won 2-0 courtesy of a floated ball into the box by Weir where the keeper came out to punch and literally missed the ball with it trickling into the net behind him and a header by McCulloch that also bobbled over the line after Novo blocked the keeper’s view and he didn’t move for the ball even though it only crawled into the net.

The ugliness of the goals broadly signifies the ‘style’ of play they’ll adopt this season and we have to be ready for it. They will hack from start to finish in every game and the main feature of their midfield last night was their propensity to hack. McCulloch and Adam play wide but both are limited hackers and their full backs love to dive into a tackle also.

Basically, they’re trying to close the chasm in quality between Celtic and themselves through blatant physicality, typical of a Smith side really with closing down, tackling and stopping others playing being the way they go about it.

They’ll brush lesser SPL asides with this approach but having seen Donati and Brown link up superbly so far I remain completely confident Celtic will win the 3-in-a-row.

I’d also give the side from Montenegro a chance in the second leg.

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9 in a row,
9 in a row,
9 in a row,
9 in a row,
etc

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Nice of you to recognise the achievements of Jock Stein’s immortal side Flano.

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I’m a novice when it comes to “sweaty sock” football but is there any chance either of the edinburgh teams could break the old firm monopoly on the spl title ?

I kinda had a soft spot for Hibs until i seen Rovers play them and that spanner O’Riordan with the manky hair was playin for them.

isnt he now playin for glasgow celtic ? oh deary me .

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Firstly, there is no such thing as this ‘old firm’ you refer to. Using the phrase would suggest some connection between the teams, that they’re one side of the same coin. Thankfully Celtic are nothing like the Huns, the only similarity being the city the teams play in.

As for the Edinburgh teams; Hibs have an excellent youth set up and consistently bring very talented young players through but finances dictate that they must be sold on for the club to function. We took Scott Brown from them earlier on in the summer and the huns are expected to sign their right back, Whittaker, who’s actually a decent player too. Then they just replace them with graduates from the youth team generally along with canny signings from abroad and the lower leagues. Their football is really good to watch and very attack-minded and flowing but they don’t have the resources and strength in depth to challenge.

Hearts are a different proposition. Under Mad Vlad Romanov they have plenty of cash and could challenge if it was utilised properly but he makes the signings and picks the team himself. Their squad is packed full with Lithuanian internationals and he signed another 2 of them yesterday. He’s also been through 7 or 8 managers in the last 2 years so there’s no continuity or structure. Plus the morale is low given he runs a dictatorship and a lot of the Scottish born players don’t like playing under him.

So based on the evidence of the last few years along with signings and other developments over the summer Celtic should press on and win the title comfortably probably ahead of Aberdeen with maybe Hibs chasing them.

Finally, it’s Derek Riordan - there’s no ‘O’ - and I don’t think he’s got a long term future at Celtic. He could do a job elsewhere though.

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thats right it was riordan but he pronounced it “Rye-ordan” or something like that.

Any way maybe its the old full back within me but when i see players like that, with the white boots and the peter mark hairstyle, i just long to see them kicked airborne to the bemusement of all.

in regard to calling Rangers “the huns” .
is there a link to the germans,or even attila !??
or is it the british way of using it in a derogatory fashion to denounce a certain kind of people. i.e johnny foreigner,gerry, etc…

anyway as long as Richie Byrne & Noel Hunt are doin well I’m happy enough

cheers for the information bandage .

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Excellent article from today’s Guardian

http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/mike_small/2007/08/hymns_of_hatred_at_ibrox_park.html

Hymns of hatred at Ibrox Park

Hate-filled chanting remains an endemic problem among Rangers fans, and it’s time to tackle it more seriously.
Mike Small

August 8, 2007 11:30 AM | Printable version

The eagerly awaited start to the season, after the long long months of a football-free world, is the preserve of a short-lived period of extreme naivety for thousands of over-committed fans up and down the land. But for others it’s the time to dust down a well-thumbed hymn book of bile and hatred.

They may have found themselves the victims of abuse last night, but last weekend Rangers FC - twice fined by UEFA for sectarian/offensive behaviour for their away support against Villarreal in March last year and Osasuna earlier this year - were caught singing anti-Catholic songs and chants for the Ulster loyalist paramilitaries while playing Inverness Caledonian Thistle. This just weeks after the Scottish Premier League and Scottish Football Association announced a major crackdown and the powers to deduct points/instigate bans to away supporters, or ultimately expel a team from the league.

What about the Catholic population of Inverness? Thankfully it’s not something that’s quantified but it’s not known as a hotbed of left-footery. Historic enmity between the clubs? Zero, unless you count the fact that the Highland club have offered Rangers a good few beatings in the last few years. And this just a few weeks after Rangers, desperate to be seen to be doing something about the endemic problem of sectarianism, launched their latest campaign to browbeat their supporters into a less vitriolic repertoire of dittys. “Follow with Pride” could be replaced by: “Wallow in Disgrace”.

Alan Dick, the SPL delegate to the match at the Tulloch Caledonian Stadium, confirmed that Rangers supporters’ “unacceptable” chants will be included in his report, which arrived at Hampden yesterday. Last year Alan Dick was involved in a similar report after a Rangers-Aberdeen game at Ibrox. It’s not just the away support as often reported. The incident prompted the SPL and leading police officers to say they were keen to implement a “zero tolerance” policy on sectarianism next season. There’s no sign of that.

We’re now faced with the unlikely prospect of an ex-Rangers player - Gordon Smith - clamping down on his own former club. Poor Smith has been pontificating (if you pardon the religious connotation of this term) on diving or “simulation”, a laudable aim. But it’s one that pales into insignificance when it’s put next to the disgraceful reality of hundreds or thousands of fans openly hurling sectarian abuse across the Highland air on the opening day of the season.

It will be the first test of the charter introduced by the SPL last month in the cause of fighting sectarianism and discrimination within Scottish football. Iain Blair, the league’s secretary, said: “Alan’s report will be examined and, if there is a case to answer, it will be referred to an independent commission under a legal chairman.”

The Rangers community inhabits the land where time stood still. In a secular age (memo to Rangers fans - nobody cares about this any more) this level of internecine religious fighting among supposed Christian sects is bizarre in the extreme. Last week the British army withdrew from Northern Ireland. Gerry Adams and Ian Paisley work together. The paramilitaries that are celebrated are in retirement homes, dead or running municipal waste sorting offices via Stormont. We even have the delicious irony of John Smeaton - web hero and scourge of religious extremism - being a Rangers fan.

Two final points are worth mentioning about Rangers, this putrefying incubus on the beautiful game. The club’s response is to try to evade censure by banning its own fans from away matches - which amounts to denying other clubs an income and denying its own decent fans the ability to support the team. It’s like covering a cancerous skin growth with a (presumably red, white and blue) neck scarf. The club frequently cites all the great things it is doing to overturn the problem. Yet only a few years ago it was milking it by selling commemorative Orange tops to celebrate its then Dutch manager. Also, the seats in the main stand were recently coloured in a massive Union flag.

Secondly, much of this could be remedied if the police were directed to enforce the law. If we can pick out a coin thrower from a stand of 10,000 people we can surely identify bigots, in particular those who raise their hands in an “Ulster Salute” as if in answer to the question of the day: “Who wants to be nicked for being a bigot?”

How would a Premiership team be treated whose fans repeatedly engaged in racist chanting and singing? The full range of the law would be brought down on them and they would be rightly shunned in civilised society. Rangers should not be allowed to dictate the terms of the response to a culture they have created.

They should be docked points and then - if the problem persists - kicked out of the league.

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Saturday 5th April 2003 was a great day in football history. After many years of oppression by the general public and bias in the media towards their club and social identity, the much persecuted Rangers Football Club finally found a voice - the Rangers Supporters Trust. About time too. Too long the Scottish media had exerted its vile will against the honourable and dignified Glasgow Rangers, cracked crests and reported daily crises and, worst of all, a wealthy cross-town footballing rival with a millionaire owner who had the majority of the press eating out of his hand. No more. It was time for the masses to rise up and scream No! in the face of their oppressors, to speak as one a united voice for all Rangers fans across the world. Rangers fans could be proud of who they were and what they stood for, knowing full well that the Rangers Supporters Trust had their back. They didn’t have to be ashamed anymore.

But they’re Huns, so of course they did. Somewhere deep inside, I like to think that all Huns are ashamed a little. And this little persecution fantasy wasn’t the case. Rangers Football Club has an undoubted history of being lauded by the press regardless of most of their actions and heavy criticism of anyone who stands in their way. History has shown it’s Celtic who have had the brunt of negative press coverage, it’s us who’ve had the cracked crests and reported crises. Of course there is very little point in me going over all the major features of Hunnery, because the majority of us all know the main events. We also know the relevant press coverage at the time of whatever vile incident we pluck from our shared knowledge was hardly incisive journalism. They were the favoured child of the family, getting away with everything while we got away with nothing. In fact, sometimes things were made up about us, just to keep the hassle away from the prodigal Hun.

Who cares? Times are turning around. In the modern age, football is global and the higher authorities and foreign press matter more and more. Fortunately, this has meant the status quo is on shaky ground. Whereas Celtic fans have been universally applauded for their behaviour at home and abroad (including winning special praise in Seville - thought I’d just chuck that in there), the Rangers have been covered in far less glory. Sectarian songs at European away games - when competing in Europe in that is - and various incidents of Nazi salutes and various epithets against the Pope (in Catholic countries no less) have generally been frowned upon by the higher echelons of the footballing powers that be. Rangers have been fined twice in the past two seasons for conduct abroad and their home behaviour has made headlines in Inverness this weekend, the first game of this season. Not only does this disgrace Emperor Murray and his drones, but it casts a shadow over Scottish football as a whole. Whether or not the SFA choose to turn a blind eye to the situation is no longer the case, as the matter is regularly being dealt with at UEFA level. This in itself forces the SFA to at least threaten action against various indiscretions by offending clubs, for fear of losing support and face within the football-governing community.

You would hope that decency would take hold, even a faked kind of decency, only for use behind closed doors. God knows they’ve plenty of halls across the country for that. Instead of coming out and punishing the apparent offenders, Rangers FC pay only lip service to ideals of tolerance and anti-sectarianism and anti-racism. The past week or so was a little different, with the Nelson Mandela-like Ally McCoist being wheeled out to beg the animals not to sing bad songs at their European tie against FC Zeta. But this is mainly down to utter fear that they’ll be huckled out of Europe before the competition has even started. On the whole, there has been a vacuum of comment from Rangers or their supporters regarding the actions of their fans. Instead of outright condemnation, both Rangers and the Rangers Supporters Trust half-heartedly criticize the offenders but then immediately point to the fact that it was a minority who did so.

A wee look at the Supporters Trust own website perhaps highlights the reasons for such wishy-washy excuses. Declaring themselves to be the Very Soul of the Club, the Trust state emphatically that they unequivocally deplores bigotry, racism and sectarianism. Impressive words, and the right kind of noises. Unfortunately, these are the only decent noises in the statement, and they are taken out of context. The above quote ends with but will challenge attempts to criminalise legitimate expressions of identity and culture. The fact that members of the chattering classes find these songs distasteful is unfortunate but ultimately irrelevant. Irrelevant? UEFA doesn’t think so, nor do the majority of Catholics who hear them. I’m not entirely sure the Pope would dismiss constant calls for his head as harmless expressions of identity and culture. Now, it’s entirely natural to tell fibs and allow self-delusion spill into trying to delude others, but what follows beggars belief.

The statement continues we deplore the sensationalist nature of much of this weekend’s media coverage, much of which amounted to deliberate distortion. For instance, media commentators suggesting either ‘The Sash’ or ‘Derry’s Walls’ are ‘sectarian’ are pursuing their own political agenda. Neither of these songs could offend any decent-minded person and we challenge anyone to point out sectarian words within either song. Sensationalist? Deliberate distortion? ‘The Sash’ not sectarian? It’s crazy comments like these that almost make you think the statement is some kind of elaborate pisstake, like hearing someone say something ridiculously stupid or offensive. Initially you laugh, believing it to be a joke. Then realization dawns when the other party doesn’t laugh, and the smile slowly slips off your face as you grasp that it isn’t a joke. The Rangers Trust are deadly serious about this. Just like they were deadly serious that it was only one trouble-maker who smashed the window on the Villarreal team bus. Or that it’s just one troublemaker who sings racial and sectarian songs and chants.

What anyone who uses this kind of argument fails to understand is that in a way it is actually worse if it’s just a couple of noisy twats or violent fools, because then the majority of supposedly decent Rangers fans are sitting idly by and doing nothing. If it is just a few people, why aren’t the supporters of a club who vehemently oppose racism and sectarianism making a stand? Even the most brass-necked idiot will sit down and shut up with a thousand people stand up and face them. Or they won’t ever be back if a few thousand witnesses come forward and point out the culprit, because then the club or police can impose a ban and keep such a bigot where he belongs. Probably marching, wearing a big orange bib, but at least they won’t cast a bad light on the club and Scottish football. The answer is that no one will stand up to this minority because they are the vocal expression of their apparent identity and culture. Or so claims the Rangers Supporters Trust.

As the self-appointed voice and soul of the club, the Rangers Supporters Trust should be brave and take a stance against anything that casts a shadow over their club. Instead, they follow a line that they are decent, noble-minded individuals who support a persecuted and demonized institution. What was truly sad about the above quotes is that they come from a statement made on Monday the 6th of August. Completely unaware of the atmosphere surrounding these events in the modern footballing world, or perhaps not even caring, they refuse to condemn the actions of their supporters and instead point to some mad conspiracy by the media to blow things out of proportion. They even raised the issue with Sir Murray et al at a recent meeting, claiming that in recent years there had been several instances of ludicrous, negative articles about the club and its fans. Rather than confront the issue head on and act in a socially responsible way, they instead cling to a paranoid ideal and bury their heads in the sand. Burying themselves entirely in sand, actually, a skill they have cultivated since their inception that they can probably jump into a pile of sand and disappear like the Scrooge McDuck in his money bin.

The Trust is right in the fact that sectarian issues are centuries old. What they again miss is that these issues should be confronted head on. They’ve missed the opportunity this time, like every previous time. Luckily, their own indiscretions at the weekend have been masked by the deplorable racial abuse of DaMarcus Beasley against FC Zeta on Tuesday night. The difference is that UEFA are investigating the matter, while the SFA have done nothing about Rangers at the weekend. Oh, and FC Zeta have publicly apologized to Rangers for the actions of their supporters. If only Rangers and their Supporters Trust could be so forthcoming.

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Two trips to the Pizza Hut all you can eat buffet in recent months have both had the same result for myself and Bandage. The sight of this monstrous hunnette staring back at us.

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Thought I’d post this in here as well. Delusional huns from Follow Follow. A Celtic fan wrote the first post about the Canadian Soldiers but the huns took him at face value and got all teary eyed for their beloved club.

Moving Ibrox Story

Made me proud…

Frank Sinatra sang there, Jim Watt fought there and Eric Liddell, the “Chariots of Fire” Olympian, trained there. Sadly, no one knows the name of the two servicemen who knocked on the Ibrox door one wartime evening and asked if they could see inside. Bill Struth obliged and as they walked the edge of the pitch, the visitors asked if they take a pinch of grass as a souvenir. “We won’t see much of this where we going,” they added.

Even the strict disciplinarian Struth was moved. “Take some, but make sure you bring it back one day”.

The two never returned.

And after the war, Struth made his own enquiries about the young servicemen. He found out they were Canadians who were in the first wave of Allies to land on D-Day in the face of fierce German fire. As they tucked the sprig of green in their uniform breast pockets, they probably already knew they’d never see Ibrox again.

scotbear 06-15-2005 02:13 PM
It’s more than a club mate…

ecksmen 06-15-2005 02:20 PM
Marvellous.

briggsy 06-15-2005 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Metalliger
Made me proud…

Frank Sinatra sang there, Jim Watt fought there and Eric Liddell, the “Chariots of Fire” Olympian, trained there. Sadly, no one knows the name of the two servicemen who knocked on the Ibrox door one wartime evening and asked if they could see inside. Bill Struth obliged and as they walked the edge of the pitch, the visitors asked if they take a pinch of grass as a souvenir. “We won’t see much of this where we going,” they added.

Even the strict disciplinarian Struth was moved. “Take some, but make sure you bring it back one day”.

The two never returned.

And after the war, Struth made his own enquiries about the young servicemen. He found out they were Canadians who were in the first wave of Allies to land on D-Day in the face of fierce German fire. As they tucked the sprig of green in their uniform breast pockets, they probably already knew they’d never see Ibrox again.

pretty moving indeed.

essexbear 06-15-2005 02:26 PM
makes you realise why this club is held so close to our hearts and is so special to so many of us.

indoloyal 06-15-2005 02:26 PM
An institution

Just proves what an institution the Famous Glasgow Rangers are
WATP forever

KBOTW 06-15-2005 02:27 PM
I have goosebumps all over reading that

AyeReady1985 06-15-2005 02:28 PM
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I have goosebumps all over reading that

good story indeed mate

DougieGray 06-15-2005 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by scotbear
It’s more than a club mate…

Sums it up for me.

Feriens_Tego_ 06-15-2005 02:31 PM
‘‘We Forget Them Not…For our tomorrow they gave their today’’

Nice story.

speedy 06-15-2005 02:32 PM
Bump… brings a lump to the throat…

the_gub 06-15-2005 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Metalliger
Made me proud…

Frank Sinatra sang there, Jim Watt fought there and Eric Liddell, the “Chariots of Fire” Olympian, trained there. Sadly, no one knows the name of the two servicemen who knocked on the Ibrox door one wartime evening and asked if they could see inside. Bill Struth obliged and as they walked the edge of the pitch, the visitors asked if they take a pinch of grass as a souvenir. “We won’t see much of this where we going,” they added.

Even the strict disciplinarian Struth was moved. “Take some, but make sure you bring it back one day”.

The two never returned.

And after the war, Struth made his own enquiries about the young servicemen. He found out they were Canadians who were in the first wave of Allies to land on D-Day in the face of fierce German fire. As they tucked the sprig of green in their uniform breast pockets, they probably already knew they’d never see Ibrox again.

Rangers FC, not just a football club. More, a way of life!

cub 06-15-2005 02:35 PM
its in our hearts forever GLASGOW RANGERS

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We shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and the oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.

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pennyburn 06-15-2005 03:43 PM
A very moving story indeed. Bless them all.

'Tis thy flag and my flag,
The best of flags on earth
So cherish it my children
It’s yours by right of birth,
Your fathers fought,
Your fathers died
To raise it to the skies,
And we like them must never yield,
But keep it flying high.

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de_bear 06-15-2005 04:36 PM
Excellent story, brings out the goosebumps.

There’s not a team like the Glasgow Rangers.

Big_Hec 06-15-2005 04:44 PM
Bump this up for the late shift

WATP

macaloon9 06-15-2005 04:49 PM
now being openly mocked on comeonmyhoop. Seems people laying down their lives during the war is ‘the craic’ aswell.

scum

Feriens_Tego_ 06-15-2005 04:50 PM
They’re filth and scum,it’s all they know.

I wish them all a painful demise.

Gibba 06-15-2005 04:51 PM
Rangers 'till we die. Very moving. Thanks.

bigalal 06-15-2005 04:55 PM
Theyre quite right to mock.

Dont you know true heroism consists of leaving bombs in shopping centres and blowing up nurses at rememberance parades?

DocStone 06-15-2005 05:02 PM
I for one cant believe the thread over there. I have been watching it to see if anyone will actually say:

“Hey, wait a mo, these guys died fighting for the free world we live in today, who are we to mock what little comfort they may have gained from a few bits of grass.”

Guess I will have to wait a fucking eternity…

The Doc

Forza 06-15-2005 05:07 PM
What do you expect from these cretins ??

Scum is as scum does. Fact.

Forza - Westminster Loyal

kingsparkger 06-15-2005 05:08 PM
Yup, but that would take decency on their part Doc…

We Are Rangers

macaloon9 06-15-2005 05:46 PM
Just one person standing up for some basic human decency?

Too much to ask for it seems.

jamseyboi 06-15-2005 05:51 PM
gave me goosebumps

canalbear 06-15-2005 05:52 PM
I booked a Normandy villa last year cost 600 for a week but could sleep six.I then spent 7 days going round ALL the D-D beaches including canadian juno.

Playing football one cold sunday morning on deserted omaha beach with my 3 year old was a day i,ll never forget.

Lest we forget!

Well worth the trip

British and Proud 06-15-2005 05:53 PM
Timmy’s just jelous that all their war heroes were to busy causing trouble in Ireland…

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Made me proud…

Frank Sinatra sang there, Jim Watt fought there and Eric Liddell, the “Chariots of Fire” Olympian, trained there. Sadly, no one knows the name of the two servicemen who knocked on the Ibrox door one wartime evening and asked if they could see inside. Bill Struth obliged and as they walked the edge of the pitch, the visitors asked if they take a pinch of grass as a souvenir. “We won’t see much of this where we going,” they added.

Even the strict disciplinarian Struth was moved. “Take some, but make sure you bring it back one day”.

The two never returned.

And after the war, Struth made his own enquiries about the young servicemen. He found out they were Canadians who were in the first wave of Allies to land on D-Day in the face of fierce German fire. As they tucked the sprig of green in their uniform breast pockets, they probably already knew they’d never see Ibrox again.

That’s The Rangers that some of us will never forget, some have forgot and sadly, under the present regime, some will never know.

As has already been said, Rangers is something very special in our lives and clearly was in the lives of these two young men

The_Chosen 06-15-2005 09:24 PM
That is probably the nicest and yet saddest story i have read on here.

Metalliger 06-15-2005 09:44 PM
just in from work…thought id give this a wee bumpity bump…

god bless those lost souls

bear_ioo 06-15-2005 10:58 PM
A tear came to my eye with this story. Stories like this mark us out as an institution with no equal in the sporting world. It’s in our hearts and minds what we are and god bless those brave soldiers for being part of our great history.

I’m going to phone up my old father to tell him about this. I’m sure he’ll be as touched as I was.

ron_de_god 06-15-2005 11:20 PM
A great story…very moving.

Rex 06-15-2005 11:27 PM
At least here on Follow Follow - we will never forget!

Rex

davedon 06-15-2005 11:34 PM
Will be showing my old boy tomorrow and my son as well.

When my Dad took me to my 1st game all those years ago i will never forget the reaction of the bears around him when he told them it was my first game.

scarves tied to each hand they all patted me on the back and one of them said - you will never want to leave after today son.

it was only later that i learned that my dad didnt know any of them - i thought they were his best mates the welcome they gave me.

Brothers in Arms indeed.

My son experienced more of the same on his 1st game and i kid you not - i felt as if i was part of a never ending loyal and beautiful yet unspoken tradition.


Let the coth mock - when have we ever worried about them?

we have soldiers to honour - what do they have apart from terrorists and lies?

WATP

red_white_and_ajax 06-15-2005 11:36 PM
with the anniversary of the Somme coming up soon , we have an opportunity again to honour those that have died that we may be free

We will always remember them

givemyheadpeace 06-15-2005 11:40 PM
that was a great story
brought tears to my eyes
rangers a way of life and thats a fact

davedon 06-15-2005 11:43 PM
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with the anniversary of the Somme coming up soon , we have an opportunity again to honour those that have died that we may be free

We will always remember them

The Battle of the Somme started in July 1st 1916.

Without doubt the most worthy post of today.

Lest we forget.

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9 in a row,
9 in a row,
9 in a row,
9 in a row,
etc

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therock67 wrote:

Two trips to the Pizza Hut all you can eat buffet in recent months have both had the same result for myself and Bandage. The sight of this monstrous hunnette staring back at us.

[img size=499]http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6843/dsc00066ld8.jpg

What an unfortunate beast that was. Funny thing was she was wearing that home jersey the day we went in before the Spartak Moscow game. Then when we went in last week before the Milan game the same huge, ugly wreck was wearing their white away top. Rocko, where’s the footage of the pool trick shots you filmed me doing in the pub?

Flano, are you aware that both Celtic and the huns won 9 titles in a row? It’s not really a valid slag then, is it?

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I’ll get to the pool shots soon - just need to get them into a format that youtube likes.

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Bandage wrote:

therock67 wrote:

[quote]Two trips to the Pizza Hut all you can eat buffet in recent months have both had the same result for myself and Bandage. The sight of this monstrous hunnette staring back at us.

[img size=499]http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6843/dsc00066ld8.jpg

What an unfortunate beast that was. Funny thing was she was wearing that home jersey the day we went in before the Spartak Moscow game. Then when we went in last week before the Milan game the same huge, ugly wreck was wearing their white away top. Rocko, where’s the footage of the pool trick shots you filmed me doing in the pub?

Flano, are you aware that both Celtic and the huns won 9 titles in a row? It’s not really a valid slag then, is it?[/quote]

Its a Rangers chant.

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Dear Sirs,

All true football fans rightly condemned the actions of the Celtic fan who recently encroached on the field of play and accosted AC Milan goalkeeper Dida. As the governing body responsible for the Champions League, UEFA were duty bound to take stringent action to show how dimly such misconduct is viewed and to deter fans of other clubs from acting in a similar manner.

It is deplorable that you failed to act appropriately to uphold football’s good name and recent revelations that it was the intervention of FA of Ireland president John Delaney which prevented UEFA taking a stronger line against Celtic asks serious questions of the integrity of your organisation.

That this incident occurred at Celtic Park is no surprise to those of us with knowledge of how low behaviour standards are at this ground. Inadequate stewarding is par for the course and there have been countless incidents over the years where fans have got on to the field of play or players and match officials have been struck by missiles thrown from the stands. Due to a particularly Celtic-friendly media in Scotland, these episodes have tended to be covered up but, when such a disturbing incident occurred in such a high-profile match, it was not unreasonable to expect that UEFA would act decisively to ensure the protection of all players and to let Celtic FC know that they are bound by the same rules as every other club.

The circumstances surrounding the latest incident must not be allowed to cloud the issue. Whether Dida overreacted to his encounter with the fan is irrelevant. A spectator got on to the field of play, was able to assault a player and Celtic FC are 100% responsible for this. Their stewards tend to be fans working for free admission, invariably paying more attention to events on the field than focusing on crowd control duties. That the fan in question was able to escape unhindered surely highlights the club’s culpability.

You should also be aware that this is not an isolated incident. As recently as their qualifying tie against Moscow Spartak, Celtic fans got on to the field at the end of the penalty kick shoot-out. Whilst no threat was posed to the Russian players, the very presence of fans on the field of play is totally unacceptable. Once more the stewards were too busy joining in the celebrations of Celtic’s victory to focus on their duties. Perhaps if your Observer had been more vigilant that night and you took action against Celtic, the subsequent more serious incident would not have occurred.

On a number of other occasions, most notably in domestic fixtures against Rangers, Celtic fans have indulged in intimidatory behaviour resulting in assaults on players (Ally Maxwell - Jan.94, Fernando Ricksen - Mar.05) and there was the infamous pitch invasion and assault on referee Hugh Dallas in May 1999. There was even an occasion in a reserve team match when a Rangers player (Fraser Wishart) became aware of an air pistol being fired at him. Furthermore, you will be aware of an incident at Ibrox Stadium last season when a Celtic fan got on to the field and brought the Rangers v Maccabbi Haifa UEFA Cup tie to a halt.

For a considerable number of years, Celtic fans have been permitted to revel in a glowing reputation about their commitment to their club and the feelgood factor they generate. This is a myth, created and maintained by the club’s publicity machine and the pro-Celtic media. UEFA also share some responsibility for allowing yourselves to be manipulated into presenting an award to Celtic fans for their behaviour at the 2003 UEFA Cup Final in Seville. As I recall this came at the end of a campaign which saw ticketless fans storming turnstiles, widespread forging of match tickets, pitched battles at airports and flights re-routed, then the Celtic crowd marred the final itself with their venomous jeering of the victorious Porto side, hardly the sort of conduct worthy of an award for sportsmanship.

There has for some time now been a widely held suspicion that, again led by sinister elements within Scottish society, UEFA has preferred to focus its disciplinary might on Rangers FC, allowing minor offences like the singing of certain songs to be blown out of all proportion, even fining the club despite originally finding the fans not guilty of ‘discriminatory behaviour’ at Villarreal in March 2006. Meanwhile, the systematic lawlessness of Celtic fans continues to be ignored. Your reluctance to deal swiftly and aggressively with the most recent incident can only be viewed as cowardice which reflects badly on UEFA and, indeed, the entire football family.

UEFA had a wonderful opportunity to establish the standards expected of spectators. Celtic FC should have been punished for their neglect of a long- running problem and the fans too are worthy of punishment for their reluctance to identify and isolate the perpetrators of the various unacceptable acts over the years. A hefty fine, the deduction of the points they won against AC Milan and the closure of Celtic Park are the actions which should have been taken if UEFA was to retain any credibility as a disciplinary force.

By allowing John Delaney any input on such a serious matter in which, given Celtic’s traditional hamming up of their Irish links (indeed, the programme for the Milan game makes this very point) and the ownership of the club by a politically-attuned Irish billionaire whom the FAI has previously approached for cash for fund their operations, he clearly had an interest, your integrity is greatly flawed.

Ironically, your dereliction of duty came on the same day when comments attributed to Scottish FA Chief Executive Gordon Smith, regarding an ‘agenda’ against Rangers FC, were rubbished by UEFA spokesman William Gaillard. But by refusing to act strongly against Celtic FC, you have further fueled the perception that your organisation is incapable of acting even-handedly.

Yours in sport,

L. B. Blue Esq.

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couldnt have been more straight to the point. Excellent Read. Hopefully UEFA take note.

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More Bears should be doing the same.

I’m working on mine and will certainly be letting them know how I feel about the mhanks receiving better treatment than anyone else.

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#3 Today, 15:06
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could not have agreed more about some of the points that are mentioned in this letter and hopefully uefa will take this on board, afterall is a fan running on the park assaulting a player, not more worthy of a hefty fine rather than just singing songs which may cause offence, i know this next point is all if’s and but’s, BUT what if the guy that ran on the park was drunk, what IF he had a sharp object of some sort, you could almost rest assured that it would be a different story then, the integrity of uefa has already been damaged in my eyes, they only seem interested in fining rangers and nothing has come to close to changing that opinion, until uefa start by dealing with clubs even handedly.

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#4 Today, 15:09
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I think we now know why AC Milan got a bigger punishment than Celtc. Step forward Mr Delaney.

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No need for ‘ifs or buts’ mate…

Rangers got fined for some mhank making a ‘political statement’.

The mhanks should’ve got f@cking hammered for one of their own invading the park.

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Maybe the Rutherglen Bugle or the Aberdeen Whorald would print this story because it will likely be the only way of shaming the rest of the mhedia into it. And even then …

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#7 Today, 15:19
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why did the oirish guy not declare that he had an interest in Sellik

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Can anyone remember how much we were fined when John Brown tossed a trainer’s bag over the touchline during a European match whilst the trainer helped an opposition player up from a non-existent but extremely time-consuming injury?

I would love to compare that punishment to the punishment handed out for an actual assault by a “fan”, no matter how minor, on an opposition player.

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Christ, it’s more deluded they’re getting. Can’t believe I read all that - what a clown.

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My favourite reply bit is from one of the respondents:

know this next point is all if’s and but’s, BUT what if the guy that ran on the park was drunk, what IF he had a sharp object of some sort, you could almost rest assured that it would be a different story then

Eh he was drunk I’m sure.
And saying it’s if’s and but’s in advance doesn’t make it less hypothetical. Of course it would be a different story then. The same as it would be a different story if the guy who ran onto the pitch shot Dida.

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More quality from Follow Follow:

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'Dunno if this is true but my grandfather told me last week that his father was friends with a man named William Findlay. Apparently Mr. Findlay was a staunch Orangeman as well as a very talented musician who could play many different instruments including the flute, bass drum, violin and piccolo. Anyway, it seems Williams musical talents took him all around the world and he was a much sought after session musician, all the while still finding the time to come back home to perform at his local lodge. Eventually William found himself landing a cushy job running and performing with the band on the infamous RMS Titanic.

My grandfather tells me that survivers reported that often during that fateful maiden voyage that William led the band on rousing renditions of some loyalist classics. At this time of course we would have been free to celebrate our heritage openly in this way. Changed days, eh?

He even told me that it was speculated at the time that the band played Follow Follow as the ship went down.

More than a club.’

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sledgehammer or is it soulrebel perhaps?whoever is the chelsea fan

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Default Wee story from Benidorm that sums up being a Bear
Mrs Colin Stein, me and my youngest are currently enjoying a wee week in Benidorm. Before we came she bought us both a Union Flag beach towel. Each night they fly proudly from our balcony separated by the bairns Rangers towel. I watch some of the locals walk by, stop and stare at the display and then discuss it, no doubt recalling that momentous night in Barcelona in 72 or the up and coming return visit by the Bears.

Anyway at the poolside yesterday I was approached by a cockney guy, who explained he was a Chelsea supporting serving soldier (and Bear friendly) and asked if the flag display was mine. I said yes, and he said he didnt want to sound cheeky but that the towels were sometimes flying upside down. I thought he was being petty, but he explained he expected more from the Quintessential British Club and that it was that attention to fine detail that made us different from all the rest. I was impressed that he was aware of the Quintessential mantle and I promised to make sure that the flags flew properly in future. Well the wife actually becasue shes in charge of that sort of thing.

Last night as I sat in my balcony I watched my new Chelsea mate and his family return from the town. He stopped outside my balcony, proudly saluted the towels and then carried on to his apartment.

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FingalRaven wrote:

sledgehammer or is it soulrebel perhaps?whoever is the chelsea fan

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Default Wee story from Benidorm that sums up being a Bear
Mrs Colin Stein, me and my youngest are currently enjoying a wee week in Benidorm. Before we came she bought us both a Union Flag beach towel. Each night they fly proudly from our balcony separated by the bairns Rangers towel. I watch some of the locals walk by, stop and stare at the display and then discuss it, no doubt recalling that momentous night in Barcelona in 72 or the up and coming return visit by the Bears.

Anyway at the poolside yesterday I was approached by a cockney guy, who explained he was a Chelsea supporting serving soldier (and Bear friendly) and asked if the flag display was mine. I said yes, and he said he didnt want to sound cheeky but that the towels were sometimes flying upside down. I thought he was being petty, but he explained he expected more from the Quintessential British Club and that it was that attention to fine detail that made us different from all the rest. I was impressed that he was aware of the Quintessential mantle and I promised to make sure that the flags flew properly in future. Well the wife actually becasue shes in charge of that sort of thing.

Last night as I sat in my balcony I watched my new Chelsea mate and his family return from the town. He stopped outside my balcony, proudly saluted the towels and then carried on to his apartment.

That’s a very moving story.

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