Limerick v Kilkenny - All Ireland Final 2022 - The Hego final

[Locke]

@fenwaypark

The currency that only matters to top teams is all ireland success. By that metric, it was not sustainable.

And I agree with you on your point - yet the Harty Cup is the be all and end all of Munster hurling, followed by the Munster final.

[Malarkey]

@peddlerscross

Pauric Mahony must be one of the few lads left who roll lifts his frees? @Malarkey this is one for you.

This clip is interesting. CL roll lifts.

[fenwaypark]

The Harty Cup is an anomaly for sure. Lads could tell you who won the Harty in any year, but not a clue who won the Croke Cup. Having said that, I know that Midleton CBS would dearly love to win a Croke Cup.

[Cheasty]

@fenwaypark

The Harty Cup is an anomaly for sure. Lads could tell you who won the Harty in any year, but not a clue who won the Croke Cup.

Same with the MacRory Cup. It’s basically more prestigious than the All-Ireland.

[the_man_himself]

If teams had every player outside their own 65 they wouldn’t have the space to score from outside as much

[Johnbird]

It appears to be that way according to the rule book for sure.

Whats stopping freetakers from balancing the ball for,say,a good couple of seconds before striking now,I wonder?

Nothing according to the rule book.There doesnt seem to be a time limit.

[Malarkey]

@Johnbird

It appears to be that way according to the rule book for sure.

Whats stopping freetakers from balancing the ball for,say,a good couple of seconds before striking now,I wonder?

Nothing according to the rule book.There doesnt seem to be a time limit.

Exactly.

[Cheasty]

@the_man_himself

If teams had every player outside their own 65 they wouldn’t have the space to score from outside as much

Why wouldn’t they? If you’ve 15 inside your own 65 and you have the ball, you then force your opposition to make a decision as to how many defenders they bring out, otherwise you have a total mismatch in terms of numbers. Say if the opposition leave three defenders back and bring three out, that’s still a mismatch of 15 v 11 inside your 65, and they’re still leaving space for a runner to take a pop pass and exploit. If they bring more than three defenders out, they’re leaving potentially fatal amounts of space in front of goal and every possession becomes a goal chance.

[Locke]

You’d have to leave one/wan inside in the full-forward line, in case it dropped shot or hit the post/bar.

@Cheasty

@the_man_himself

If teams had every player outside their own 65 they wouldn’t have the space to score from outside as much

Why wouldn’t they? If you’ve 15 inside your own 65 and you have the ball, you then force your opposition to make a decision as to how many defenders they bring out, otherwise you have a total mismatch in terms of numbers. Say if the opposition leave three defenders back and bring three out, that’s still a mismatch of 15 v 11 inside your 65, and they’re still leaving space for a runner to take a pop pass and exploit.

[the_man_himself]

There’s only a limited amount of space on the field. If the other team brings 3 backs out to deal with it there’s no space for a short puckout or to get space for a long strike for a point consistently.

[TheUlteriorMotive]

If you do that the other team can equally score from their half ?

They’ll probably need to make sliotar heavier at some stage - the modern Hurl is making modern hurlers too powerful (cc @TreatyStones )

[Cheasty]

@the_man_himself

There’s only a limited amount of space on the field. If the other team brings 3 backs out to deal with it there’s no space for a short puckout or to get space for a long strike for a point consistently.

If you have three more outfield players in the target area than your opposition does, yes you do.

[TreatyStones]

@Cheasty

You can score from pretty much anywhere nowadays and the risk/reward calculation of driving the ball in to a full forward line seems heavily weighted against

Retention rates improve dramatically depending on where you deliver the ball from. Limerick will nearly always work the ball beyond their own 45 before looking for a ball inside…

I had a graphic on it I can dig out.

[Cheasty]

@Locke

You’d have to leave one/wan inside in the full-forward line, in case it dropped shot or hit the post/bar.

Somebody with the catching ability of Tony Aisake O’hAilpin and the predatory instincts of Seanie Leary?

[the_man_himself]

@Cheasty

If you have three more outfield players in the target area than your opposition does, yes you do.

Not when that area isn’t that big. The other team can mark zonally and always have pressure on the man with the ball

[Cheasty]

@TreatyStones

Retention rates improve dramatically depending on where you deliver the ball from. Limerick will nearly always work the ball beyond their own 45 before looking for a ball inside…

I had a graphic on it I can dig out.

Limerick can do that because the opposition are spaced out enough to let them.

[ScorpioLyons]

Nothing official but once the hurley stops its upward arc from the lift, that’s when you could call it for fouling the ball.

[habanerocat]

@BruidheanChaorthainn

What’s the conversion rate of 65s in the championship nowadays ?

Had me wondering should 65s be in direct or something as it’s hardly fair if a defender makes a good block and the result is a essentially a point either that or move them back to the opposing 65 to make them more difficult.

I’m well behind the conversation but my input would be to ensure the 65 is struck behind the 65 like a 20 has to be struck behind the 20. Same for all frees. Give the refs a can of that foam stuff also to stop lads taking that big step. I’m surprised Byrnes hasn’t torn his hamstring he takes such a big lunge.

[Big_Dan_Campbell]

@Julio_Geordio

I’ve put some thought of late into how to reduce the scoring from all over the field but I fear that suggestions such as reducing the bas or increasing the weight of the sliothar would actualy be counter productive in encouraging more defensive setups as the ball not travelling as far would mean teams can sit deeper as scores cannot be gotten from range. I think the solution could possibly be to ban quick puckouts giving the defending team more time to set thereby removing the quick puckout to a man in space to launch it from 100 yards. I would be interested in an analysis of all puckouts after a score where the keeper has to wait vs those from a wide to see whether it has any effect on the speed of the next shot being hit. Intuiatively I would expect it does. But maybe it wouldn’t at all

I said it here before. I’d love to see a trial of puckouts being hit in the style of a free rather than from the hand. It would increase the level of difficulty for short puckouts and reduce the accuracy of the longer ones leading to more contested catches and the need for half backs/forwards to compete under dropping balls.

[pulpfiction]

Give Brian Cody a bell there and tell him you’ve figured out how to be successful and see if he’ll make u a selector