Barca and Real have won the last 5 CLs.
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He couldn’t do it in his team’s hour of need. Why aren’t you getting it?
You do come out with some classics. In Peps 4 years in charge, he won la liga 3 times, champions league twice. He won an unprecedented 6 trophies in his second season there. He won 14 trophies in 4 years.
The team he left won la liga after Tito Villanova took over.
But your opinion is he destroyed that team. Brilliant!
you’re discounting all the times he’s done it in his teams hour of need. Your judging him on absolute perfection. Your entire argument is counter productive.
The more you denigrate him for not being perfect the more you’re inadvertently agreeing he’s almost perfect. And that’s not good enough for you. Because he isn’t Italian.
What hours of need, the hours of need on their procession to another La Liga title?
Or the hours of he need in the major knockout stages of international competitions for his country and in recent years the hours of need for his club in the latter stages in the CL.
PSG two years back, all Neymar in the hour of need.
He destroyed Bayern too. They’ve only won all the Bundesligas and a double since he left and lost a few Champions league semi finals.
Winning the Champions League is the easiest thing in the World mate.
He did in my opinion. In peps last season they didn’t win the league or the champions league. They destroyed man united playing possibly the best football I’ve ever seen. They moved away from this and tried to play almost the perfect tipy tapy football In every game. He started that false nine thing with fabergas and signed Alexis too which never worked. It became very boring to watch. It was the same with the Bayern team he took over which were also brilliant to watch but he ruined them trying to play the perfect game. It’s the same with city now. Constantly getting over run In Europe by lesser teams. Spurs, pool and Monaco the last three teams to knock him out.
I thought you said leagues are more important than the CL?
I said they are harder won.
But most of Barca’s league titles in La Liga have been processions, very few have gone to the wire.
He has a litany of choke jobs in big games in the past decade.
Its only since Messi came on the scene that Barcelona are dominating La Liga
Haha
Solid responses in my book.
Since the Ronaldinho/Rijkaard era to be exact.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM95gmcLrJ0
He didn’t score in this champions league final but he absolutely destroyed Juventus. Destroyed them
First goal. He drops deep, taking men with him. Pings a 40 yard diagonal to Alba, lovely touch inside to Neymar, Great run by Iniesta off to Rakitic. One nil
Second Goal. He beats three or four Juventus players running from deep, shoots, deflected by Buffon to Suarez. 2-1
Third goal. he initiates the counter from deep to set Neymar away. One two with Pedro, 3-1.
Although he didn’t score in the final, he was directly involved in all three goals and everything good Barcelona did that night. A phenomenal performance. Without scoring. I would say he inspired those around him that night
Fantasist stuff there.
Once again Messi was ordinary against an Italian side, wasn’t even in the top 4 Barcelona players that night.
Why do you guys set the bar so low for a player regarded so highly?
It’s like lauding Usain Bolt for beating a fat 8 year old in a race.
Flesh that out.
Juventus being the fat 8 year old?
The evidence is there in the video. He destroyed Juventus. Ripped them to shreds. I suppose if you consider your country men to be fat 8 year olds and Messi to be Usain Bolt then it’s different.
It’s hard to live up to absolute perfection.
Nope, hitting a few nice passes being you best contribution in a huge game.
Messi flops when the pressure is on and his team need him to stand up and perform, he’s great when everything is going fine but ask him to stand up and turn the tide? Forget about it.
Interesting piece to support your view of his performance last night