Your man moaning about how his son stayed inside studying during the warm weather but still got lower than anticipated marks was the best of all.
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I somewhat sadistically I suppose enjoy cunts like him whoâve fallen short of unrealistic expectations. The entitlement and sense of self-righteousness dripping from them is palpable and there they are pontificating to Joe. Joe is just filling the time slot, he may as well be wrapping chops for Goodman.
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Thereâs an entitlement dripping from all of them âI paid âŹ7k for my Johnny to get results, itâs a disgrace Joeâ I feel sorry for the children of parents like that.
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Lads here sneering at ordinary parents who do their very best to save to give the children the best chance in life.
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The posters here want something for nothing.
Nothing wrong with that but bleating to Joe isnât exactly setting a good example towards lifeâs inevitable ups and downs.
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Life is brutal
90% of the show is whining to Joe. You seem to be taking particular exception to this.
Not particularly
The more they bleat the more they highlight the system is rigged in their favour. Their kids are not brighter than average.
Itâs fascinating to watch their arguments about unfairness when they have benefited for a generation from unfairness. Their school results were better on average - they should ask themselves honestly why that it is.
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Iâm alright jack
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Sure maybe you post every day giving out about people moaning away to Joe - I must have missed it
They paid for it. They paid this year too and didnt get the benefit. Theyâve every reason to be pissed off.
Iâd say itâs largely because they come from households where education is prioritised above most other things - and from an early age. The private school thing is a symptom of this, not the cause
Why do schools like Laurel Hill (Limerick), Colaiste Eoin/Iosgain, Ard Scoil Ris etc etc do so well each year if itâs just about paying fees.
You may argue, correctly, that the state should look to balance up the desire of these families to do the best for their kids and id agree. It may even get to the point where LC disparities between schools is minimised, however to describe the system as âriggedâ is shameful hyperbole.
Ultimately though itâs a side argument to the LC 2020 results. The state failed in delivering as similar a result to each pupil as they could reasonably have been expected to get if there had been an exam. Itâs just maths and theyâre just kids. If you want to change the system then change it - but you donât do it in one year like this imho. Effectively it imposes grade quotas per school.
The glee of lads here (and widely elsewhere) is fairly poor. Some I expected - some Iâm surprised by
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If they took a schoolâs previous results into consideration it would have thrown kids from less well off backgrounds under the bus in huge numbers. This is the lesser of 2 evils and also an enjoyable spectacle.
Streaming at entry.
It is unfair and at an individual level I may have sympathy. But until now they have benefited from an unfair system that worked for them and anybody who called it unfair was called bitter.
Itâs a bit of schadenfreude.
Iâm not sure whether thatâs the case. I think the presumption is that because the UK made a bollocks of it that weâd make the same mistake.
What is abundantly clear though, is that the school you go to is a factor in the results you are likely to achieve. Not the sole factor, but enough to be statistically significant so therefore to ignore it is to step away from the goal of trying to devise a system that reflects what students would likely have achieved in any event.
The natural follow through to the methodology applied this year, if the minister and Dept think itâs appropriate, is that each school gets a quota of H1âs, H2âs etc each year and that starts with immediate effect. The fact that this clearly wonât happen (Hey St Killian german speaking lads - you get 2 H1 german results to give to your students each year) shows how utterly devoid of logic and cynically political the changed at the last minute algorithm was.
Such an approach would also completely devalue the Leaving Cert. Thereâs a reason people look at leaving cert results and donât give a bollox for your internal school exam results.
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I wouldnât criticize a parent being outraged on their childâs behalf, I donât know the story but itâs likely that they feel justified in their grievance, all sense goes out the window when you feel your kid has been short changed, particularly in life Iâd say, have many TFK posters pulled themselves up by the bootstraps, I never got that impression
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You donât really sound as if youâve got sympathy. You sound like youâre delighted with this.