Liverpool FC 2016/17/ Mousey's stag in Tipp town

They wiped out £70m of debt.

What did Herr Klopp say in his interview?

He was laughing smiling and spoofing… The normal shite out of him

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The improvement at Dortmund was fairly instant. They had been in relegation trouble 2 years before and then finished 13th the season before he took over. Changing that to 6th and them 5th was real progress. And he did benefit form a very inconsistent era from Bayern who didn’t even finish second when he won his first title.

He’s a good coach with a decent track record but he’s been erratic and if I was a Liverpool fan I’d be concerned at the drop off in his success in recent seasons.

That said it would be ridiculous to sack him. They aren’t going to find a manager who will guarantee them more success. He’s about as high calibre a coach as they can attract. They need to give him time, they’ve been too rash in the past.

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Bayern being poor doesn’t explain getting a record points total despite only finishing 5th the season before. Agree with most of your post other than that

Reading back on some of the comments here from 18 months in the dying days of the Brendan Rodgers regime at Anfield. @balbec is as shrewd as you get.

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Like the night they won at Goodison

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They have only won one since…howmanu time have everton won since?

Actually won 3 times since in the league,as shite as that is.

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Keep em coming Geoff, no wonder he despises you.

I love the smell of napalm in the morning.

Come back Rafa all is forgiven.

Oh Jesus there’s a headshot.

I really really wish @Rocko would bring back the ignore function.
Nembo’s point may have some merit, though it ignores entirely the absence of suarez, and the fact that klopp brings a feelgood factor that Brendan, for whatever reason, didn’t.
But I’ve read it rehashed about a thousand times now.

Would you stop … All you have to do is drop a simple little one liner about how unfair x is on Klopp and you’ll have the other fella dancing sideways. It’s beyond boring at this stage… I actually feel sorry for him, and a number of other posters, as the last few months have highlighted that some lads live very lonely lives.

Getting back to Liverpool… When you see Klopp having to rely on Moreno and some spotty kid to save the day, it shows what he is up against in turning the clubs fortunes around. There’s no doubt if the owners back him with cash like the likes of Conte and Mourinho have been, he’ll walk the league.

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Would you stop…the KOKs want to have it every which way to denigrate Rodgers and exaggerate Klopp’s achievements. Rodgers gets no credit from them for his part in developing the likes of Suarez and Sterling - players who improved markedly under his management. Instead it’s airbrushed out of history and they tell us he had nothing to do with it and these players did it on their own in spite of him.

The basic fact is that Rodgers took over a mess post Daglish while Klopp was fortunate to assume control after Rodgers. Klopp has a worse record than Rodgers but the German’s jovial japery seems to give him a free pass with the KOKs. It’s only the likes of Didi Hamann calling him out as far as I can see and the response of KOKs has been to get stuck into him and demand that the club not use him for any ex-player events.

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Choosing to…

Not “having to”.

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There’s very big doubts on Klopp to astute readers of football. He has been there a season and a half and they are still defensively shambolic.

Cultists like you are so entrenched you can’t see the wood from the trees. With the resources available and money invested in him, there is no doubt he is underachieving. His ability to dupe naive fans with ‘honest’ interviews is what is keeping the pressure off him.

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It’s not even fun anymore.

What’s most amusing about this is how important it is to the Celtic brigade. The need to go back in time and save Rodgers from past vilifications even though you thought he was shite as a Liverpool manager.

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