Madeline McCann Thread

I am not sure anyone is saying that nobody else took this risk but it doesn’t matter how many or how little took the risk - it was completely wrong. It is bordering on negligence causing the abduction of a child. That’s not anti elitism - that is just fact.

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A term none of us would ever have known.

In all fairness though, they had to be suspects for the police. Close relatives are usually top of the list when something like this happens.

Is it wrong to leave your children alone for any period of time?

That may be so. But they were taking the piss after a while. Having dogs sniff the rental car 44 days after the disappearance was incompetence at best.

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That’s a very well put together post.

People are really bad and read too much into how they perceive a normal reaction to a situation should look like leading to an immediate often flawed judgment (cc Malcolm Gladwell - Talking to Strangers)

They neglected their kids to go out socialising with friends?

A 3 year old and a pair of toddlers was it?

If they were working class, the British media would have been unrelenting until some sort of action or incident occurred to the parents. It’s what the British media like to tell the masses, it’s ok for the elite to do it but not for the commoner. Doctors are entitled to leave their children unattended when they go for drinks with their friends but the narrative would all be on neglect if the parents were working class.

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I’m not getting into semantics on this. Leaving three kids under five alone in an apartment beside a public road while their parents jollied it up with their mates in their resort speaks itself.

Also it appears the abductor got in and out without a sound being made from any of the three kids. Questions would then need to be asked as to whether they were sedated.

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No it’s not, because that was the huge mistake they made, you asked for people to face criminal charges for leaving their kids alone, and preceded it by accusing me of taking the moral high ground.

That poor man who left his child in the back seat when he went to work wasn’t hounded @Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy, he didn’t have to put up with years of online abuse and conspiracy theories, why so?

Is child neglect not a criminal charge?

Oh because they were doctors they sedated their kids. That was a common enough accusation at the time. Of course there was absolutely no evidence for it.

Because he didn’t mean to leave the child there!!

Which poor man?

Did he leave his kid alone in a car to go socialising with his mates? Did his child get abducted?

No one tested the kids of course.

But ok - there is no evidence. But the rest of it cannot disputed.

Is it any different than parents drinking a few bottles of wine in a holiday home in Connermara or West Cork whilst minding kids so that if the kids need urgent medical attention nobody is in a position to drive.

Parents regularly get drunk at home while kids are in their care - if you got drunk at work you’d be fired.

When we were young kids never wore seat belts in cars

Etc etc.

Yes known fact but TBH there’s not a man in Ireland over 50 who didn’t do similar , be it leaving kids in cars, run around in/ outside pubs restaurants/play parks , one example last week, Carrigaline park, little kiddies left alone to wander , and I mean wander, while yummy mummies chatted away 50 m plus away, this is a fact, I’m on the outdoor gym machines there daily, morning or evening .
PS the sea comes right up to a lagoon , also lots of ways to wander away

Yes.

The kids were unsupervised and their daughter was abducted.

I’d also imagined if parents are regularly drunk in their child’s care then that is serious cause for social services to get involved.

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That’s fair enough, but your original post seemed to suggest that them being suspects was part of a stitch up, which I don’t believe.

I’m inclined to believe the abductor theory but Kate McCann’s actions after seeing that Maddie was gone sit very uneasy with me. I know there’s no way one is “supposed” to behave after something like this happens but to immediately decide that someone has “taken her” and then to leave the apartment with your other kids inside is very odd. If you believed there was a someone snatching kids nearby, surely you wouldn’t leave the other two alone in there?

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Parents who get drunk at home minding their own kids would be aghast if a third party babysitter did the same.

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If this is known to be the case, social services have major grounds to get involved.

By the way, there is nothing morally high ground saying that the parents should face criminal charges. They should. Loads of comments about them making a ‘terrible mistake’. So does anyone else charged with negligence causing harm.

You are always giving it loads about how people are so terrible about doing this or that and how you can rise above it all and call everyone else out. This is yet another example when the facts are completely to the contrary and any reasonable person would could to a similar conclusion.

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