Man City v Liverpool - The Shame Game

Sterling is probably their best player, very poor management from Southgate.

That stuff should not leak out to the press.

This is why Liverpool are disliked.

It was a league match in November. The giddiness is at a peak here.

Yep he hates ogs. He started a podcast and basically spent every week claiming pogba and de he’s was leaving. Spent two weeks after the transfer window saying they’ll run down their contracts and leave for free. He definitely seems to hate man united now. Liverpool are incredibly flukey so far this season over 38 games though these decisions tend to even out.

I’m suspicious of you, you seem to have murdering scouse bastard tendencies.

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They do pal. I think Liverpool were unlucky with the goal given against them v Manchester United but have had their share of dubious goalkeeping and VAR decisions in their favour too

The big thing is they keep creating chances. And chances lead to goals. Sure we can only hope they give it a rattle

Liverpool have no class and their fans are genuinely deluded. It would be extremely amusing to see them bottle another league from this position.

If they won it out, would you resign your userna… Ah, nevermind, forget it.

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Like today you’ve countless Liverpool fans claiming teams can’t handle fortress anfield and it gets inside players heads. How many titles has fortress anfield delivered for Liverpool in the last thirty years?

Uncle Tom Gomez.

Liverpool should be ashamed of themselves for their treatment of Sterling, not the first time they have shafted a great player

Sounds like Joe dealt with this attack from Sterling very well, just like his teammates did yesterday

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:joy::joy::joy:

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Maybe sterling thought Gomez was trying to steal his premier league winners medal.

Scouse Hypocrisy

The upcoming twentieth anniversary of the Hillsborough disaster will rightly attract much media coverage and be the subject of commemorations, marking those who passed away but, as with all such scouse-led grief-fests it’s inevitable things will descend into a mawkish pit of self-pity. Already, of course, Liverpool have asked to be excused footballing duties on April 15th – a quite astounding move for a football club to take, by any measure. After all, wouldn’t you think a high profile football match would be a touching and emotional way to honour football fans? (Clearly Liverpool simply didn’t want anything to distract them from their grieving. We await LFC giving up their on-pitch commitments altogether in order to focus on remembering dead chickens, Jade Goody and the like.)

In return there will come the usual “grief monkey” jibes from Reds, although given our own club’s actions in recent years in relation to the death of George Best and the fiftieth anniversary of Munich perhaps we shouldn’t be so smug. (That bizarre thing with the posters at the West Brom game was more akin to the passing of the Ayatollah than a football player, whilst some proposals suggested by the ludicrous Stretford End Flags group to mark Munich were toe-curlingly bad; not to mention AIG’s abomination on the front of OT, David fucking Gill’s name being recorded for posterity in the “Munich tunnel” and the awful, nauseating accommodation of the Munich-baiters-in-chief for the derby fixture. The classy displays the club put on for Sir Matt’s passing in ‘94 and even as recently as ‘98 for the fortieth anniversary of Munich seem so long ago.)

United are often accused by outsiders of profiting from Munich and, whilst it’s true the disaster brought the club sympathy and publicity from outsiders in equal measure, no-one could really put a convincing case that United themselves sought to capitalise on the tragedy (at least not until that horrendous AIG advert). Indeed, far from people dwelling on events, Eamon Dunphy’s ‘A Strange Kind Of Glory’ testifies how the subject was actually the great taboo throughout the club in the early ‘60s.

In contrast there’s plenty of evidence that Liverpool have consistently sought to capitalise on what Hillsborough brought them (just enough sympathy to wash away their Heysel disgrace for instance, allowing them their stunning attempt to present its own twentieth anniversary in 2005 as a joint Liverpool-Juventus commemoration – grief hijacking extraordinaire!), demanding the victims were honoured and remembered by everyone else, whilst Liverpool’s own board, players and supporters were moving on apace.

Witness the behaviour of John Aldridge at the replayed semi-final at Old Trafford a mere three weeks after Hillsborough. His disgraceful taunting of Forest’s Brian Laws following the latter’s own goal was unbecoming in any circumstances and fully deserved Tony Adams’ retribution - “That’s for Brian Laws, you cunt” – three weeks later when Arsenal stole the championship at Anfield.

Of course that came after the all-Merseyside cup final (just five weeks after Hillsborough) which, as though nothing had happened, was once again marked by images of numerous scousers scaling the stadium walls to gain entry and, with the fences removed, pitch invasions that they’d been put up to prevent. Meanwhile, stewards on duty that day were called to a disturbance at one entrance ten minutes into the game where they were met by the sight of hordes of scousers attempting to storm their way in. Forget the earlier ridiculous calls for the season to be abandoned and Liverpool awarded the FA Cup in memoriam – some of the club’s fans had in mind a far more fitting way to honour the disaster’s victims.

Meanwhile, in the wake of Lord Justice Taylor’s report into Hillsborough, rather than take the lead in the transition to an all-seater stadium Liverpool’s board held on as late as possible, even seeing the outside possibility of a reprieve dangled when ‘safe standing’ technology was trialled in early 1994. When that was rejected, and with almost all other clubs having already committed to reconstruction, Liverpool’s procrastination allowed further wishful suggestions to take hold about maintaining the Kop as the only terrace in top-flight football as some sort of “tribute”.

And yet, twenty years on from Hillsborough, despite the club’s inaction regarding the demolition of the Kop in the wake of the disaster; despite the club’s fans being happy in the inherent safety of terraces per se - as shown by their willingness to pack them until the last possible moment - some influential Hillsborough families still maintain a powerful influence over the future of English football through their total opposition to any sort of debate about the merits of safe standing. Until such a time as they relax their stance, it will remain all too easy for politicians and the media to ignore legitimate calls for a debate into the benefits of safe standing, thereby postponing the possibility of it reinvigorating top level English football crowds currently dominated by middle-aged, middle class professional males with plenty of spare cash to spend.

That the Hillsborough families should maintain their stance against terracing is perhaps understandable (especially given that it represents the only real ‘change’ from pre-1990 representing their relatives’ passing was not in vain) but totally irrational. The talk is constantly of not wanting to “go back” to the days of terracing, instantly associating “going back” with the dark days of 1980s hooliganism, as though a modern-day, well designed ‘safe standing’ terrace fitted with pressure sensors and without having fans hemmed into killer cages bears any resemblance to the pre-Taylor Report reality. This opposition also appears to contradict the families’ call for “justice” given that if the police were to blame to a larger extent (which they were) and the fences to a lesser extent (which they were) terracing’s supposed culpability doesn’t get much of a look in.

This issue of the opposition to terracing was evident again last week when BBC news covered the recording of a Hillsborough tribute song. Present in the studio was some smug, barely intelligible cunt who is apparently Liverpool’s Lord Mayor, and who took great delight in telling the camera, “Although crowds are much more safe now than they were twenty years ago and football’s moved on, there are calls by some quarters for standing to be reintroduced into football stadia so it’s just important that we do reinforce the messages that crowd safety is as important today as it was twenty years ago.” Naturally, his position as Labour Lord Mayor of a rival Liberal council which has previously passed a motion calling for an open debate on standing had no bearing on his comments, as obviously scousers wouldn’t stand for such disgraceful political exploitation of the Hillsborough victims. Ahem.

As is mentioned elsewhere in this issue, in the immediate aftermath of Hillsborough there was a widely prevailing sense of unity amongst many football fans. Despite the years of Munich taunts and “LFC celebrate Munich 58” banners being a staple of their European travels, there were many United tributes laid at Anfield in the days following the disaster, and Red Issue was even happy to donate sale proceeds to the disaster fund. Such feelings soon evaporated however, as depicted in print the following August by RI’s infamous ‘Hillsborough Cow’ cover, which drew the ire of the Evening News in particular.

Despite this lampooning, come the clubs’ first post-Hillsborough meeting United fans still retained a respect for the actual victims, if not the perceived circus that had latched on to events. At Anfield that December afternoon the simple and stunningly effective “Where’s your famous Munich song?” was met with embarrassed silence from assembled scousers who’d deliriously lauded “Who’s that dying on the runway…” for the best part of twenty years. Following it up with a deafening “You’re just a bunch of wankers!” Reds had made their point in the cutest of ways, which makes it all the more disappointing to hear the increasing recourse to Hillsborough taunts in recent years (however toxic the rivalry between the clubs’ support, no normal person could fail to be moved by the scandalously young ages of so many of the victims).

These are now at the level where you have to wonder if United fans would’ve respected a silence had the two clubs been drawn together this month in Europe – something even City managed at Old Trafford last year. That’s a depressing thought but then, despite how some seek to portray us as being a cut above, Reds have never been angels, and of course, some people might suggest you can track a straight line from United fans’ misbehaviour in the ‘70s, which resulted in the Stretford End seeing the first fans fenced in on the terraces, to events a decade and a half later in Sheffield.

A little unfair on Docherty’s Red Army that may be, but given the scousers’ actions at Old Trafford last month, where inflatable aeroplanes were hurled around the concourses and in the stand whilst huge numbers of them celebrated the passing of “Matt Busby and his boys”, no doubt the Mickeys will point to that as justification

Nailed it.

The videos of the fa cup final mentioned are quite sickening when you consider what happened a few weeks earlier. Liverpool are a horrible football club.

Sterling is seething :smile::smile::smile:

Big Joe is the epitome of pure class on and off the pitch

Who wrote that piece from 2009 you posted there?

I never really knew much about the heysel tragedy. It seems really odd to me. Liverpool fans must have serious issues.