A £200m-£250m spending spree again this summer should help things along as well.
Reports breaking from Germany that Ilkay Gundogan will agree terms with United this weekend. A fee of £20-25m being spoken about.
Quality a few years back. He’s had a decent run in the team this year after injury and hasn’t been a world beater. Sahin arguably more effective. Also looks a bit fat.
The ugly dutchman has mugged me off a bit. He has in fairness turned things around a bit and utd will be contenders next season… After spending another fortune.
With their almost unparalleled resources and the advantages that go with that, its been a season of failure and underachievement from Man U. As you said, they’ll probably throw another £200-250 million at new players this summer.
It shows up what an utterly distorted/uncompetitive farce of a league it is when Man U the richest, flashiest franchise have a wage bill double that (and more) of three quarters of the other sides. Spurs in 6th have a wage bill of £100m as against Man U’s £215m.
Proper financial fair play, penalties and squad wage caps should be introduced to curb the advantages that the Manchester franchises and Chelsea have over the rest of the also rans.
Interesting study released during the week.
Manchester United boast the highest wage bill of all Premier League clubs, after new figures emerged showing the club paid £215.8million in salaries in 2013-14.
United have overtaken Manchester City as the biggest payers in the English top flight: [B]City’s wage bill[/B] stands at £205million, while Chelsea are third highest with £192.7million.
The lowest payers are Burnley, who boast a wage bill of just £21.5million – one-tenth the size of United’s.
In terms of points gained per pound spent on wages, Southampton are the best performers in the Premier League: they are only ranked 15th in the top flight in terms of their wage bill – £55.2million – and yet are currently seventh in the Premier League.
The biggest [B]under-achievers are QPR[/B], with a £75million wage bill even from a season when they were in the Championship making them the eighth-highest payers yet they are down at 19th in the table. QPR’s salary bill was almost twice what the club earned in total last season.
The wages costs and profits or losses of all top-flight clubs for 2013/14 have now been confirmed via annual accounts posted at Companies House and overall there is a close correlation between total salary bill and league position, with the current top four in the Premier League also the four biggest payers.
The combined accounts of the 20 clubs shows over overall turnover rose to £3.07billion from £2.3billion in 2012/13 with wages increasing too but at a slower rate and totalling £1.84billion compared with £1.65billion. The latest figure shows salaries account for 59.9 per cent of turnover compared with 71.7 per cent for the same 20 clubs a year before.
The increase in income is mainly down to the Premier League’s [B]lucrative television deal[/B] that came into effect for the first time last season. The cash injection has led to six clubs who were in the red in 2012/13 now being in the black.
Apart from those clubs who were promoted from the Championship last season, only Manchester City, Aston Villa and Sunderland ended the 2013/14 season having made a financial loss.
£m
1MANCHESTER UNITED 215
2MANCHESTER CITY 205
3CHELSEA 192.7
4ARSENAL 166.4
5LIVERPOOL 144
6TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR 100.4
7NEWCASTLE UNITED 78.3
8QUEENS PARK RANGERS 75.3
9SUNDERLAND 69.5
10ASTON VILLA 69.3
11EVERTON 69.3
12WEST BROMWICH ALBION 65.4
13WEST HAM UNITED 3.9
14SWANSEA CITY 62.3
15STOKE CITY 60.6
16SOUTHAMPTON 55.2
17CRYSTAL PALACE 45.7
18HULL CITY 43.3
19LEICESTER CITY 36.3
20BURNLEY 21.5
[QUOTE=“Manuel Zelaya, post: 1128902, member: 377”]With their almost unparalleled resources and the advantages that go with that, its been a season of failure and underachievement from Man U. As you said, they’ll probably throw another £200-250 million at new players this summer.
It shows up what an utterly distorted/uncompetitive farce of a league it is when Man U the richest, flashiest franchise have a wage bill double that (and more) of three quarters of the other sides. Spurs in 6th have a wage bill of £100m as against Man U’s £215m.
Proper financial fair play, penalties and squad wage caps should be introduced to curb the advantages that the Manchester franchises and Chelsea have over the rest of the also rans.
Interesting study released during the week.
Manchester United boast the highest wage bill of all Premier League clubs, after new figures emerged showing the club paid £215.8million in salaries in 2013-14.
United have overtaken Manchester City as the biggest payers in the English top flight: [B]City’s wage bill[/B] stands at £205million, while Chelsea are third highest with £192.7million.
The lowest payers are Burnley, who boast a wage bill of just £21.5million – one-tenth the size of United’s.
In terms of points gained per pound spent on wages, Southampton are the best performers in the Premier League: they are only ranked 15th in the top flight in terms of their wage bill – £55.2million – and yet are currently seventh in the Premier League.
The biggest [B]under-achievers are QPR[/B], with a £75million wage bill even from a season when they were in the Championship making them the eighth-highest payers yet they are down at 19th in the table. QPR’s salary bill was almost twice what the club earned in total last season.
The wages costs and profits or losses of all top-flight clubs for 2013/14 have now been confirmed via annual accounts posted at Companies House and overall there is a close correlation between total salary bill and league position, with the current top four in the Premier League also the four biggest payers.
The combined accounts of the 20 clubs shows over overall turnover rose to £3.07billion from £2.3billion in 2012/13 with wages increasing too but at a slower rate and totalling £1.84billion compared with £1.65billion. The latest figure shows salaries account for 59.9 per cent of turnover compared with 71.7 per cent for the same 20 clubs a year before.
The increase in income is mainly down to the Premier League’s [B]lucrative television deal[/B] that came into effect for the first time last season. The cash injection has led to six clubs who were in the red in 2012/13 now being in the black.
Apart from those clubs who were promoted from the Championship last season, only Manchester City, Aston Villa and Sunderland ended the 2013/14 season having made a financial loss.
£m
1MANCHESTER UNITED 215
2MANCHESTER CITY 205
3CHELSEA 192.7
4ARSENAL 166.4
5LIVERPOOL 144
6TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR 100.4
7NEWCASTLE UNITED 78.3
8QUEENS PARK RANGERS 75.3
9SUNDERLAND 69.5
10ASTON VILLA 69.3
11EVERTON 69.3
12WEST BROMWICH ALBION 65.4
13WEST HAM UNITED 3.9
14SWANSEA CITY 62.3
15STOKE CITY 60.6
16SOUTHAMPTON 55.2
17CRYSTAL PALACE 45.7
18HULL CITY 43.3
19LEICESTER CITY 36.3
20BURNLEY 21.5
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/11552941/Man-Utd-news-United-overtake-Man-City-with-Premier-Leagues-highest-wage-bill.html[/QUOTE]
I would have had you down as a capitalist
Not in a sporting sense. I would be more of a traditionalist. Only 4 EPL clubs that were founded as late as the 20th century and two of these four, Chelsea and Man U have now evolved into the small elite band of super franchises.
Man U flat track bullying stat of the day - courtesy of the British Broadcasting Corporation
Wayne Rooney has scored once in his last 17 Premier League away games. He has scored 15 in his last 17 Premier League home games.
[QUOTE=“Manuel Zelaya, post: 1128902, member: 377”]With their almost unparalleled resources and the advantages that go with that, its been a season of failure and underachievement from Man U. As you said, they’ll probably throw another £200-250 million at new players this summer.
It shows up what an utterly distorted/uncompetitive farce of a league it is when Man U the richest, flashiest franchise have a wage bill double that (and more) of three quarters of the other sides. Spurs in 6th have a wage bill of £100m as against Man U’s £215m.
Proper financial fair play, penalties and squad wage caps should be introduced to curb the advantages that the Manchester franchises and Chelsea have over the rest of the also rans.
Interesting study released during the week.
Manchester United boast the highest wage bill of all Premier League clubs, after new figures emerged showing the club paid £215.8million in salaries in 2013-14.
United have overtaken Manchester City as the biggest payers in the English top flight: [B]City’s wage bill[/B] stands at £205million, while Chelsea are third highest with £192.7million.
The lowest payers are Burnley, who boast a wage bill of just £21.5million – one-tenth the size of United’s.
In terms of points gained per pound spent on wages, Southampton are the best performers in the Premier League: they are only ranked 15th in the top flight in terms of their wage bill – £55.2million – and yet are currently seventh in the Premier League.
The biggest [B]under-achievers are QPR[/B], with a £75million wage bill even from a season when they were in the Championship making them the eighth-highest payers yet they are down at 19th in the table. QPR’s salary bill was almost twice what the club earned in total last season.
The wages costs and profits or losses of all top-flight clubs for 2013/14 have now been confirmed via annual accounts posted at Companies House and overall there is a close correlation between total salary bill and league position, with the current top four in the Premier League also the four biggest payers.
The combined accounts of the 20 clubs shows over overall turnover rose to £3.07billion from £2.3billion in 2012/13 with wages increasing too but at a slower rate and totalling £1.84billion compared with £1.65billion. The latest figure shows salaries account for 59.9 per cent of turnover compared with 71.7 per cent for the same 20 clubs a year before.
The increase in income is mainly down to the Premier League’s [B]lucrative television deal[/B] that came into effect for the first time last season. The cash injection has led to six clubs who were in the red in 2012/13 now being in the black.
Apart from those clubs who were promoted from the Championship last season, only Manchester City, Aston Villa and Sunderland ended the 2013/14 season having made a financial loss.
£m
1MANCHESTER UNITED 215
2MANCHESTER CITY 205
3CHELSEA 192.7
4ARSENAL 166.4
5LIVERPOOL 144
6TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR 100.4
Juventus 94.4m
Roma 78.4m
7NEWCASTLE UNITED 78.3
8QUEENS PARK RANGERS 75.3
Milan 75.2m
9SUNDERLAND 69.5
10ASTON VILLA 69.3
11EVERTON 69.3
12WEST BROMWICH ALBION 65.4
13WEST HAM UNITED 3.9
14SWANSEA CITY 62.3
15STOKE CITY 60.6
Inter 56m
Napoli 56m
16SOUTHAMPTON 55.2
17CRYSTAL PALACE 45.7
Fiorentina 44.8m
Lazio 44m
18HULL CITY 43.3
19LEICESTER CITY 36.3
Palermo 24m
Sampdoria 22.4m
Sassuolo 22.4m
Genoa 21.9m
Torino 21.6m
20BURNLEY 21.5
Udinese 20.8m
Atalanta 19.2m
Parma 16.4m
Verona 16.4m
Chieveo 14.6m
Cagliari 12.8m
Cesena 9m
Empoli 8.8m
I’ve gone to the trouble of getting the Serie A 2014-2015 wage bill and exchanging it to pounds at a 0.8 rate and placing the Serie A clubs in at the respective positions. Just goes to show how grotesque the English game has become, all that money and the end product is a big steaming pile of poo. QPR having a bigger wage bill than Milan? FFS.
On a similar theme, QPR played Derby in the play off final the same day as the all Madrid European Cup final last season. QPR had a bigger wage bill than Atletico.
Are Man Utd the only club in the Premier League with a wage bill less than half of their turnover 
what a well run club.
Rare to hear a Man U fan praising the role of the Glazer’s. The vitriolic campaign that has been waged against the Glazer’s for years by so called fans is distasteful in the extreme. I would suspect motivated by an element of anti-semitism as well.
Exhibit A: Just how fucked up football has become
I see they also made an after tax profit last season, it seems the club has never forgotten the financial woes of 1902 which nearly forced it out of existence. Once they continue to adhere to the basic principles of income exceeding expenditure there will be no fear of them.
A large and loyal fan base will always ensure a healthy turnover, no bandwagon to be seen here.
Of course it has, but I’d rather see a club like United pay wages of €215m against a turnover of €433m than QPR paying out €75m against a turnover of €38m
Are Utd debt free these days?
Are you mad? The Glazers have loaded the club with debt.
So you’re very happy with the Glazer’s handling of the player wage bill via a vis turnover, very happy with the seemingly never ending resources made available to Van Gaal to buy players but not happy with the Glazer’s using debt as a source of finance. You really want it every way.
Things really have moved on at Man U since the days when Louis Edwards was calling the shots from his butcher’s shop in Salford.
[QUOTE=“Manuel Zelaya, post: 1130304, member: 377”]So you’re very happy with the Glazer’s handling of the player wage bill via a vis turnover, very happy with the seemingly never ending resources made available to Van Gaal to buy players but not happy with the Glazer’s using debt as a source of finance. You really want it every way.
Things really have moved on at Man U since the days when Louis Edwards was calling the shots from his butcher’s shop in Salford.[/QUOTE]
Manchester United were debt free when the Glazers took over.
They now owe the guts of £400,000,000 and over £700,000,000 has been drained from the coffers in servicing debt and interest repayments, substantially more than what was paid in transfer fees.
Their average home attendance in 1974/75 season in the 2nd tier of English football was 48,0000, Louis Edwards was calling the shots from his butchers shop in Salford at the time.
[QUOTE=“Mullach Ide, post: 1130371, member: 141”]Manchester United were debt free when the Glazers took over.
They now owe the guts of £400,000 and over £700,000 has been drained from the coffers in servicing debt and interest repayments, substantially more than what was paid in transfer fees.
Their average home attendance in 1974/75 season in the 2nd tier of English football was 48,0000, Louis Edwards was calling the shots from his butchers shop in Salford at the time.[/QUOTE]
It should also be noted that Louis presided over the era of Best/Law/Charlton and the European Cup win of 1968. Such was the equilibrium that existed in the domestic English game prior to the advent of the Premier League and the super franchise. Man U were relegated a mere 6 years after winning the European Cup. The 48,000 that followed Man U in the 2nd tier in 1974/75 were patient and understood the game. They backed their manager Tommy Docherty in a period of transition that was still evolving after the Busby era. There was no clamour to have Docherty sacked after presiding over the relegation season of 1973/74 and under the Doc’s stewardship they roared straight back into the First Division with an exciting young side that had one of the great FA Cup win’s in 1977. Compare that to the disgusting treatment that David Moyes was subjected to last season and the instant gratification culture that now pertains at Old Trafford.
Such ebbs and flows weren’t just confined to Man U. Spurs were relegated in 1977, within a few short year’s they were winning back to back FA Cup’s and UEFA Cup. Leeds United after a decade of being the most consistent team were relegated just 7 years after playing in the European Cup final. Aston Villa were relegated in 1987, just 5 years after winning the European Cup. Hard to imagine it now, but Man City & Chelsea were both relegated twice in the 1980’s.
You had provincial town champions like Portsmouth in the 40’s, Wolves in the 50’s, Burnley & Ipswich in the 1960’s, Notts Forest & Derby in the 70’s.
The EPL model has thrown up a bland sameness year in year out. Arsenal, for over a century, the pre-eminent club in London, now just play to finish in the top 4 and if that’s achieved the season is a success. What passes now as shaking things up is Southampton potentially finishing 7th to follow up on last season’s 8th place finish.
[QUOTE=“Manuel Zelaya, post: 1130385, member: 377”]It should also be noted that Louis presided over the era of Best/Law/Charlton and the European Cup win of 1968. Such was the equilibrium that existed in the domestic English game prior to the advent of the Premier League and the super franchise. Man U were relegated a mere 6 years after winning the European Cup. The 48,000 that followed Man U in the 2nd tier in 1974/75 were patient and understood the game. They backed their manager Tommy Docherty in a period of transition that was still evolving after the Busby era. There was no clamour to have Docherty sacked after presiding over the relegation season of 1973/74 and under the Doc’s stewardship they roared straight back into the First Division with an exciting young side that had one of the great FA Cup win’s in 1977. Compare that to the disgusting treatment that David Moyes was subjected to last season and the instant gratification culture that now pertains at Old Trafford.
Such ebbs and flows weren’t just confined to Man U. Spurs were relegated in 1977, within a few short year’s they were winning back to back FA Cup’s and UEFA Cup. Leeds United after a decade of being the most consistent team were relegated just 7 years after playing in the European Cup final. Aston Villa were relegated in 1987, just 5 years after winning the European Cup. Hard to imagine it now, but Man City & Chelsea were both relegated twice in the 1980’s.
You had provincial town champions like Portsmouth in the 40’s, Wolves in the 50’s, Burnley & Ipswich in the 1960’s, Notts Forest & Derby in the 70’s.
The EPL model has thrown up a bland sameness year in year out. Arsenal, for over a century, the pre-eminent club in London, now just play to finish in the top 4 and if that’s achieved the season is a success. What passes now as shaking things up is Southampton potentially finishing 7th to follow up on last season’s 8th place finish.[/QUOTE]
Agreed, the Glazers are bad.