Manchester Utd 2023/24 (Part 1)

Yeah thats the reason. The players playing for those clubs now are miles better as the clubs have the pick of players from across the world and aren’t relying on players from Britain and Ireland.

Their fans were hooligans who caused trouble wherever they went. In the end UEFA had enough of them and banned them.

Any fans in particular ?

the Bosman ruling and the Premier League changing it so you could start more than three non nationals blew the whole bread bin open.

To be fair the English teams were mostly backboned by English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish lads when they dominated the European club game between 1977 and 1984 weren’t they? I suppose the other leagues were very relying on locally produced players at the time too so it was more even.

they didn’t fall under the three foreigner rule did they?

Grobellaar, Molby, Glenn Hysen and Craig Johnston were probably the only players from outside the British Isles that featured much for Liverpool in 1980s. There could be others that don’t immediately spring to mind.

Yeah every club was more or less reliant on domestic players then. Sure didn’t Brady have to leave juve as they signed platini as their second foreigner. I’m not sure what the explanation for the English clubs dominance was given England, Scotland, Ireland were hardly pulling up trees international level in those years.

Two Irish internationals started 84 Euro Final (and one on bench), three started the 85 one.

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united fan now: money killed football
united fan in 1992: god aren’t sky great, this premier league is the business

scotland got to a world cup in '74 and drew with Brazil, they were very strong. England lost to Germany in the QF in 70 3-2. Scotland were there again in 78. This was when only 9 teams qualified from UEFA

I don’t think it’s that England and Scotland, even Ireland weren’t strong then, it’s just that France, Netherlands and West Germany were almost generational and Brazil and Argentina of course

Scotland had Kenny Dalglish, Joe Jordan, Buchan, Willie Morgan, Peter Lorimer, Denis Law, Gordon McQueen.

Christ soccer really was better back in the 70’s and 80’s

Archie Gemills goal against Holland in Mendoza 1978 is widely considered the greatest World Cup goal of all time

Wales got to a world cup and Euros in the 70s as well when it was an achievement just getting there. Toshack and Yorath. The tans hit a slump in the 70s but were back by the early 80s really competing in the big tournaments

Yea but they had a ridiculous run in the European cup. Won it what 77,78,79,81,82,83,84? With three different clubs. And probably a good few uefa cups and cup winners cups. They didn’t have way better players than everyone else I think England didn’t even qualify in 78 so it is a strange one.

it’s not that strange - the english clubs at the time could field players from wales, scotland, england and ireland with a foreigner rule or some shit and italian and spanish teams could only field one foreigner

Wales didn’t qualify for a World Cup between 1958 and 2022 I’m fairly sure.

1980

I suppose strangeness is in the eye of the beholder

They did not.

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i thought they got to one of the world cups around then… they did quite well in 76 in the European Championship - got to a playoff and lost to Yugoslavia