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#41

[QUOTE=“Gman, post: 1113302, member: 112”]have a think about that there again will you?

if you think those who dismiss the homophobes arguments as being a heterophobe, .[/QUOTE]

I didn’t say that so maybe its you who needs to have a think…

[QUOTE=“Gman, post: 1113302, member: 112”]

your argument makes no sense whatsoever, and sounds about as logical as any of the relevant arguments against SSM.[/QUOTE]

in your haste to throw this in you totally misread what I said…
I said in my experience so how you can tell me whether it makes sense or not is a bit odd… if you took the time to read I’m not arguing for or against SSM I’m actually commenting on the reactions I’ve seen from people…its a totally different thing…


#42

[QUOTE=“Gman, post: 1113312, member: 112”]
are you calling the 75% as per the latest figures in support of SSM as being heterophobes?[/QUOTE]
what the fcuk has that got to do with point I made?..you’re far too eager for a row…


#43

[QUOTE=“scumpot, post: 1113313, member: 182”]I didn’t say that so maybe its you who needs to have a think…

in your haste to throw this in you totally misread what I said…
I said in my experience so how you can tell me whether it makes sense or not is a bit odd… if you took the time to read I’m not arguing for or against SSM I’m actually commenting on the reactions I’ve seen from people…its a totally different thing…[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=“scumpot, post: 1113317, member: 182”]what the fcuk has that got to do with point I made?..you’re far too eager for a row…[/QUOTE]

I’m trying to make sense of your original point:

how are people who dismiss arguments of those against SSM to be considered heterophobes?


#44

[QUOTE=“scumpot, post: 1113309, member: 182”]i think its totally connected…its people who were once perceived as victims totally losing the run of themselves and morphing into what they once complained about…

Fear by anecdote is hardly a good basis for it…[/QUOTE]
It’s not anecdote, it’s an evidence question. If a 14 yo girl becomes pregnant it is obvious she has committed a crime and she would have to be prosecuted. See?


#45

[QUOTE=“glasagusban, post: 1113322, member: 1533”]It’s not anecdote, it’s an evidence question. If a 14 yo girl becomes pregnant it is obvious she has committed a crime and she would have to be prosecuted. See?[/QUOTE]
sorry I actually misread your original post…
my point is that anecdotes are real too … but how many kids have underage sex and how many get pregnant?..in the long term, education is far more beneficial than a [I]a blind eye can be turned more easily… [/I]its also a more structured approach…


#46

[QUOTE=“Gman, post: 1113321, member: 112”]I’m trying to make sense of your original point:

how are people who dismiss arguments of those against SSM to be considered heterophobes?[/QUOTE]

I didn’t say every person , I said I have seen a lot…I said its the[B] manner[/B] in which they cut them off, [B]not acknowledging[/B] any point they make and [B]just dismissing[/B] them as homophobes… To me, in a lot of cases, that shows a deep rooted mistrust , fear and prejudice against people who have a heterosexual outlook…

this is typical of the point I’m making…you jump on the comment, throw up fact and figures about SSM when I haven’t even given an opinion on the actual topic.
.typical of this country, like sheep…its cool to be gay now, in the year 2015 …well aren’t ye the modern men altogether! give me a break , fuckin clowns…


#47

[QUOTE=“scumpot, post: 1113336, member: 182”]I didn’t say every person , I said I have seen a lot…I said its the[B] manner[/B] in which they cut them off, [B]not acknowledging[/B] any point they make and [B]just dismissing[/B] them as homophobes… To me, in a lot of cases, that shows a deep rooted mistrust , fear and prejudice against people who have a heterosexual outlook…

this is typical of the point I’m making…you jump on the comment, throw up fact and figures about SSM when I haven’t even given an opinion on the actual topic.
.typical of this country, like sheep…its cool to be gay now, in the year 2015 …well aren’t ye the modern men altogether! give me a break , fuckin clowns…[/QUOTE]
I think you’re very confused. A mysogynistic or homophobic outlook does not equal a “heterosexual outlook”.


#48

[QUOTE=“glasagusban, post: 1113339, member: 1533”]I think you’re very confused. A mysogynistic or homophobic outlook does not equal a “heterosexual outlook”.[/QUOTE]
thanks for that …whatever the fook that has to do with the price of milk…


#49

[QUOTE=“scumpot, post: 1113341, member: 182”]thanks for that …whatever the fook that has to do with the price of milk…[/QUOTE]
Don’t remember seeing you feeling so threatened before mate. Relax.


#50

[QUOTE=“scumpot, post: 1113336, member: 182”]I didn’t say every person , I said I have seen a lot…I said its the[B] manner[/B] in which they cut them off, [B]not acknowledging[/B] any point they make and [B]just dismissing[/B] them as homophobes… To me, in a lot of cases, that shows a deep rooted mistrust , fear and prejudice against people who have a heterosexual outlook…

this is typical of the point I’m making…you jump on the comment, throw up fact and figures about SSM when I haven’t even given an opinion on the actual topic.
.typical of this country, like sheep…its cool to be gay now, in the year 2015 …well aren’t ye the modern men altogether! give me a break , fuckin clowns…[/QUOTE]

a very odd outlook. so it’s only gays who dismiss the points are the heterophobes? And they do this because they have a mistrust and fear of heterosexuals? I’m not entirely sure how you would come to that conclusion. It seems a very odd outlook on things to be honest.

And is it only the gays who are the heterophobes? What if a heterosexual called you a homophobe for displaying homophobic tendencies?

and what are this articulate reasoned arguments against SSM that you speak of that should not be considered homophobic and should be debated rather than dismissed?


#51

[QUOTE=“glasagusban, post: 1113344, member: 1533”]Don’t remember seeing you feeling so threatened before mate. Relax.[/QUOTE]

I’ve had my fill of this shit…I’m fookin seething…
mysoginist are now people who believe a woman should be part of every family?.. :confused:


#52

[QUOTE=“scumpot, post: 1113348, member: 182”]I’ve had my fill of this shit…I’m fookin seething…
mysoginist are now people who believe a woman should be part of every family?.. :confused:[/QUOTE]
Or a man?


#53

[QUOTE=“glasagusban, post: 1113350, member: 1533”]Or a man?[/QUOTE]

huh?..a misogynist ? …where are we going here, lad??.. :confused:


#54

[QUOTE=“scumpot, post: 1113354, member: 182”]huh?..a misogynist ? …where are we going here, lad??.. :confused:[/QUOTE]
I haven’t a fucking clue cause you’re all over the place today.


#55

[QUOTE=“Gman, post: 1113345, member: 112”]a very odd outlook.[B] so it’s only gays who dismiss[/B] the points are the heterophobes?
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where did I say that?.. you’ve totally made that up to suit your point…once again

[QUOTE=“Gman, post: 1113345, member: 112”]
What if a heterosexual called you a homophobe for displaying homophobic tendencies?
[/QUOTE]
I’ve no problem if they did because anyone who knows me would know it couldn’t be further from the truth, and my opinions went back to the last century as opposed to the current ‘trendy’ outlook, the Modern Muldoon accepting ‘them’ gays now…

[QUOTE=“Gman, post: 1113345, member: 112”]
and what are this articulate reasoned arguments against SSM that you speak of that should not be considered homophobic and should be debated rather than dismissed?[/QUOTE]

[I]The result of allowing same-sex couples to marry is that agencies that are entrusted with finding parents to adopt and foster children cannot legally favour families that can provide a mother and a father, which all evidence suggests is the best environment for children…[/I]

God forbid some people might be sceptical …aren’t they awful nasty people for having concerns on change that goes against previous findings regards child’s family environment …jesus you’d almost think they were human![/QUOTE]


#56

[QUOTE=“glasagusban, post: 1113355, member: 1533”]I haven’t a fucking clue cause you’re all over the place today.[/QUOTE]

you’re throwing in words like misogyny for some reason and anecdotes aren’t based on real incidents yet I’m the one all over the place…
ok pal…guilty as charged…i’m off for lunch, i’m fuckin seething as this has played out exactly how I was complaining about how it seems to play out… :mad:


#57

So you are basing it on a completely redundant argument that has nothing to do with the upcoming referendum? Seeing as gay parents can currently adopt and the SSM doesn’t change anything with adoption?

You seem to be taking this rather personally? You still haven’t cleared up who is heterophobic though. You claim I’m making stuff up, but you made the claim. Is it only gays who are? Or are heterosexual people heterophobes too?


#58

[QUOTE=“scumpot, post: 1113361, member: 182”]you’re throwing in words like misogyny for some reason and anecdotes aren’t based on real incidents yet I’m the one all over the place…
ok pal…guilty as charged…i’m off for lunch, i’m fuckin seething as this has played out exactly how I was complaining about how it seems to play out… :mad:

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Are you on your period or what?


#59

[QUOTE=“Gman, post: 1113363, member: 112”]
You seem to be taking this rather personally? You still haven’t cleared up who is heterophobic though. You claim I’m making stuff up, but you made the claim. Is it only gays who are? Or are heterosexual people heterophobes too?[/QUOTE]
I claimed from my experience which you are trying to ridicule… and you say I’m taking it personally…you see how crazy that is?..how do you know how many gay people I have discussed this with ?.. you have absolutely no way of quantifying my experience yet you’re telling me how ridiculous I am for saying what I have experienced first hand…Your experience could be different and that’s fair enough…I’m not trying to change that because you are entitled to it…
Yes, being heterosexual that would exclude you from being heterophobic …


#60

[QUOTE=“scumpot, post: 1113361, member: 182”]you’re throwing in words like misogyny for some reason and anecdotes aren’t based on real incidents yet I’m the one all over the place…
ok pal…guilty as charged…i’m off for lunch, i’m fuckin seething as this has played out exactly how I was complaining about how it seems to play out… :mad:

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Don’t heed him, pal. He’s on another one of his crusades.