Martin O'Neill and Roy Keane Backers

You are spot on there. The Swedes are muck but they have a plan, they stick to it and it works.

see Iceland.

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Or do the players simply not follow his instructions? He’d Leicester, Celtic, villa, Sunderland and Ireland playing well at various stages.

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He also had them playing shit at various stages

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Basically all our good results bar Italy came through us taking the only decent chance we had in the whole game. We defended well quite a bit under him but attacking wise it was always set pieces or luck

his message gets stale fair quick

I’d be happy to make a financial contribution to Arsene Wenger’s package.

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Harry Arter commented before that he went out on the pitch for a match under O’Kneel and there were no instructions, no game plan.

Harry arter hates both o neill and Keane so I’d take anything he says with a pinch of salt. Everyone always blames the managers.

I hear hes got a big windfall coming his way shortly

and this worked for every club team he has managed

either the game has moved on or the players are shit

Leicester and Celtic are years ago. Villa fans hate him. It absolutely turned to shit at Sunderland after the initial new manager bounce.

The players don’t get instructions, that appears to be the main issue

O’Neil and Keane lost their nerve after a couple of thrashings and didn’t have the skills to turn it around so they walked.

Ireland need to have a system and play to that system, similar to what Iceland do and what Greece did.

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Exactly. Iceland are no better. They’d a similar euro 2016 to us. They play a much worse brand of football. The notion Northern Ireland play a swash buckling brand of football :grin: They’ve achieved far less than ireland in the last four years.

Coleman broke his Fucking leg. Sorry he wasn’t bombing down the wing for you in a cast.

As I said for various reasons they’ve barely played.

Incorrect and impossible

Nobody said they play swash buckling football but they played us off the park last week and no they haven’t achieved much less than us. They’ve done better if anything

Has Leo tied up the broadband deal for him?

They do. They crap and putrid to watch. The big difference they’ve that lad who’s absolutely ridiculous at set pieces. That’s all o neill really need one decent top ten premier league player who can create a chance, take a good corner and stick the odd free kick. he’d have been fine then. Our team we’ve have since the euros isn’t much past league one level.

I think after Denmark beat us in the World cup playoff last year O’Neil gave up, up to that point they played a certain way and had some success but after that beating things have gone from bad to worse.

Most successful Ireland managers have had a system to play too, such as Charlton, McCarthy, Trapp (wasn’t Pretty) and even O’Neil at the start. Now there is no plan other than don’t concede.