No he has the Limerick job
The Tyrone County Board dragged their heels over Harte’s re-appointment last year too.
Is there bad blood between Harte and senior county board officials there?
I’m guessing there is with the County Chairman Roisin Jordan as this sort of stuff has only started since she took over.
Majority opinion at grass roots level in the county would appear to be almost totally behind Harte.
Interesting.
There seems to be.
Jordan likes to throw her clout about.
Seems like Mickey made a power play here on the basis of the Ulster title last year. After last year he figured he had the support behind him. She must be a right hard bit of stuff.
What are you basing that on?
To me it seems like they are copping on to him.
Copping on to what?
That he is wasting the talents of the players he has by playing the way they are playing. Aa well as aowing them carry on like morons which is turning media, supporters and referees against them.
I think tgey need new ideas and a different mindset. Tyrone are better than i thought they were and i actually think there is alot more in them.
I think he should have been gone already and this was arguably a wasted year in the sense that Cavanagh is now another year closer to packing up. And they need him still.
I don’t think Mickey understands moder young people.
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More than you base your bullshit theories on, I bet.
“Word was” Eamon Fitzmaurice was “gone” regardless of the result of the Kerry-Dublin semi-final. How did that work out? 
As for copping on, have you still not copped on that Harte is one of the greatest ever Gaelic football managers ever?
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The Kerry physio told me they were all going. But these things change obviously.
Or he got lucky with the bunch of players he got.
Great managers evolve. Its questionable he has.
Harte is doing a good job with the players available.
Not like the contract means anything anyway so a bizarre request from him.
Looking for a vote of confidence I suppose. He should resign now ta fuck and throw it back in their faces
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You could make the argument about pretty much any manager who has had success that they were lucky with the players they had.
Harte played a key role in the underage development of pretty much all of the 2003-08 team (even Peter Canavan as they’re the same club) and carried that on to senior.
Given that Tyrone had never won an All-Ireland before 2003, Harte was also fighting against a tradition of failure within the county.
To totally change that culture to one where victory is not just attained but has come to be expected in the long run is an immense achievement, especially when you look at how their Ulster and All-Ireland winning contemporaries Armagh and predecessors Down, Derry and for a long time Donegal fell away.
Uniquely amongst the breakthrough counties since the early 90s in both football and hurling, Tyrone not only achieved success but maintained their strength to a point where they are now one of the consistent four or five elite counties in the game.
Last line not true. They were hardly top 10 for a couple of years.
You could say it about alot of coaches. Certainly not all. Luck has alot to do with getting a break or a start or winning. Winning something makes people think you know something. But you may just have the best available players. It could be a bit of each.
Or you might be a genius. Harte is not a genius. And while i don’t think he is stuck in the past too much or anything, i do think he is out of touch tactically now. You set yourself up based on the players you have, i’m not sure tyrone do that.
So nothing to add here no?
What years were they hardly top 10?
Tyrone have maintained their elite status far better than any other non-traditional county in either football or hurling who has made the breakthrough since Down in 1991 heralded the start of the democratic era of success in inter-county GAA.
In football Armagh, Down, Derry, Galway, Kildare and for a long time Donegal retreated to also-ran status. Tyrone never did that - under Harte they’ve never been longer than two years without at least a provincial title or an All-Ireland quarter-final appearance.
In hurling, Clare, Limerick, Wexford and Offaly all retreated into also ran status.
Maintaining that winning culture beyond an initial breakthrough is very difficult.
Any county can have the odd bad season but the clear trend since 2003 is that Tyrone are usually in the top 5-6 contenders for the All-Ireland and they’re certainly top 4 again now. That’s down to the culture of demanding and expecting success that’s in the county now and nobody has been more key in building that culture than Harte, having been a constant in charge of Tyrone teams for 25 years.
Tactically Harte has been one of the very few managers who has had an idea of how to beat Dublin over the last four seasons and if there was one manager I’d trust to put a plan in place to nobble the current Dublin team in championship football it would be him.
Harte’s Tyrone team advanced thinking on defensive tactics considerably in 2003 - the semi-final against Kerry is one of the key matches in the tactical evolution of Gaelic football.
Harte has been consistently having success with Tyrone teams for 25 years and you don’t do that by being lucky - you don’t do it without having serious knowledge tactically and a superb ability to man-manage players.
I’m not sure what GAA managers over the years could be classed as “geniuses” (personally I think such language is nonsensical hyperbole) but if you insist that it is relevant to GAA management, Harte would be one of the first candidates to have it applied to him.
What do you want me to add? Salt or sugar?
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Tyrone fell way off. They were nowhere near winning or elite from 09 to 15 inclusive.
Himself and Fitzmaurice share this 2000’s peaking model. Where as Dublin have shown a long term wholistic approach is better for consistancy. The Vern Gambetta approach. It allows for small tapers and small spikes and is more condusive to modern life. Killkenny are similar.
Buzzwords.
Wholistic? Holy shit.
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