I don’t think so.
He called his mate on the way back. I’d say if it was suicide it was a spur of the moment thing.
He could possibly have gone out by the Dodder behind Lansdowne Road but surely the body would have struggled out to sea. Who knows with the rain though.
Limerence is a word I’d never come across before. Maybe one for the “Things I learned today” thread
The calling the mate to tell him everything is ok would be another tell in my book. Just like planning the next days work.
Methodically planned.
I thought it likely meant strength and strong character given the likely etymology
Or it could be the completely normal behaviour of somebody with drink on them.
The sister also claimed his phone rang out over the course of the weekend but later admitted she wasn’t sure it did.
A mobile back then surely wouldn’t survive seconds in the water.
This probably tells me the sister was just clinging onto hope by saying the phone rang out.
Couldn’t she check call logs and see? Seems easily resolved.
I’m not sure they’d tell if it went straight to voicemail or rang out back then.
They’ve tried it plenty of times in other cases with no discernible improvement. I find it hard to believe they could now identify this lad.
Edit, you’re right though, I haven’t a clue really.
Doubt it. I can see him fibbing to co-workers but not a friend who he was returning a call from.
I think it’s possible he thought about it and spiralled but not sure on it being methodically planned.
But I also would be wary of the suicide in the water thing. Can’t see how he’d had been fully washed out by the Dodder and not emerged in the port. The distance he would have walked to have been clear beyond Ringsend was an hour from the last sighting. It was December and dark so possible, but I’d also expect there would have been workers arriving around then around Poolbeg.
Any further north would have been a struggle distance wise before things got too busy. He wouldn’t have been able to get public transport for another couple of hours.
He also emphasised in the voicemail to the friend he’d see them tomorrow.
Another indicator in my mind he knew there would be no tomorrow.
The fact he stood and talked to the man outside the bank would have me fairly positive he hadn’t lost his head and this was a spur of the moment thing.
He was ensuring everyone thought he was ok. More than likely fully aware he was on camera outside the bank as well.
If the sea is the theory then depending on tides he could have easily gone in off Sandymount Strand which isn’t a million miles away from where he was last seen
By my completely spoofing calculations, even at high tide, I can scarcely think of a place where it would be harder to enter the sea, or a place where a person entering the sea would be more likely to have their body washed back ashore than Sandymount Strand.
Pre checking his emails. The scenario here is that with a bit of drink on him he got a bit down that there was no correspondence from Alaska. He leaves calls his friend with no answer. Further spirals.
Not a huge lot. Quite a bit of sharing on facebook in the west donegal area at the time. It looked very much like an open and shut case of suspected suicide. God love him and his poor mother.
Plenty of server space dedicated to all sorts of theories regarding the Alaska connection and Dublin gangs. Very little to the most mundane and plausible scenarios. I’d be inclined to think either this or the Dodder.
Could they not get a 90kg sack of meat/offal, stick a gps tracker in.and fuck it into the Dodder and Liffey a hape of times when conditions are similar to that night?
Trevor Deeley and Philp Cairns are real mystery’s