Missing People In Ireland

[TheUlteriorMotive]

The Wisdom of Psychopaths by Professor Kevin Dutton is a good read.

[farmerinthecity]

As is the case with this entire episode no one seems to have a clue what went on.

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

ive been told he was having a relationship with his victim

[balbec]

Bullshit

[artfoley]

@Little_Lord_Fauntleroy

ive been told he was having a relationship with his victim

@Tegman is not to be trusted

[TheUlteriorMotive]

I’d trust your connections to the South East Asian community in Wicklow and its hinterland.

[Copper_pipe]

RTÉ News at One (RTENewsAtOne)

[mickee321]

@Tank

Bit of banter with the TFKers mate.

One little point - legally in Ireland the legal test for criminal insanity is whether someone was so effected that the could or couldn’t tell the moral quality of their actions. There was a classic case of a lad who dropped acid, thought his girlfriend was a giant snake and strangled her to death. Not 100% certain but if I remember correctly he got off for murder but got done for manslaughter because its reckless to drop acid.

i agree its a bit like FOTF Brendan Patrick O Donnell who claimed he saw the devil at the edge of his bed before killing those two people in Clare - i often thought of him saying that in a Ger Loughnane type of voice BTW…
then you have this type of case
this fella murders or kills (as they are saying he is insane so therefore its not murder) his parents and shows no remorse but is deemed to be sick- the family say their regret is that they didnt flag this earlier
can we consider this fella in the same breath as yer man Hennessey? maybe he was also exhibiting behaviours that were consistent with mental illness

like i remeber this case in the news but we weren’t on here taking about this fella in Donegal and calling him evil, etc… same with yer man in Cavan who took out his whole family…
people are calling Hennessey a scumbag but these other fuckers are just referred to as “troubled”, etc
why the double standards i wonder?

Man who killed parents with axe committed to mental hospital

[TheUlteriorMotive]

He is supposed to have rang his partner from the car and then cut his wrists.

[anon7035031]

It’s a sad day when TFK posters are regurgitating speculation from boards, unless of course you are the originator of the speculation on boards.

If true however, it could certainly point to motive.

[anon7035031]

So he was shot through the head to prevent him from killing hinself?

[TheUlteriorMotive]

Bullet exited shoulder and into head.

Cops in the US use hollow point bullets (dum dums) banned under Hague Convention that don’t exit but Kill you proper

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

unlike you I am not a forum whore, I’m on this forum and a fixie enthusiasts forum

[anon7035031]

No he’s correct, the vast majority of psychopaths are non violent and can be quite successful. The traits of a psychopath are control of others and complete lack of empathy towards others, so fits with some CEOs and political leaders. Bill Clinton is most likely a psychopath, Trump a clear sociopath.

[anon7035031]

I don’t post on boards. I accept your word that it is a coincidence.

[mickee321]

Jurgen Klopp always struck me as someone who was very very ill as well

[TheUlteriorMotive]

That book I referenced had JFK as a psychopath. Superficial charm is another trait. Also they have high receptive empathy (can sense fear) but low projective empathy. It can also be situational specific.

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

agreed

[TheUlteriorMotive]

His ability to be (seemingly) friendly with all of players including the ones he knows he will have to drop is staggering and most people cannot do it. It’s why managers of teams (sport and other) tend to be friendly with their stars only.

I don’t seem him climbing a clock tower though.

[anon7035031]

@farmerinthecity

It is definitely a fine line. But I think there is a line.

This is where that otherwise useless profession, psychiatry, comes into play. These people spend years studying human behaviour. They should be qualified enough to make the call that someone was carrying on outside of their right mind - i.e. they didn’t know what they were doing was wrong through a definite mental illness. The guy below in Kilkenny who stabbed the girl in the shopping centre with the falconer’s glove on his arm being one. Of course he still has to be locked up.

But for me, if the person had the mental functioning to determine what they were doing was wrong yet still went ahead and did it (this is the classic ‘psychopath’) then they are murderers. Now there is a scale in terms of this, a woman killing an abusive spouse on the one end and Hennessy on the other end and dare I say in rare occasions murder is justified completely. With regard to Hawe, he is clearly a murderer and a mass murderer at that in my view. Murder suicides as a form of mass murder is very common unfortunately so maybe there is something more going on there but I don’t think those who commit such acts should be viewed as being mentally ill when they clear are not.

There is so much stupid in this it is hard to know where to start.

In brief (bullet points).

• Psychologists and not psychiatrists study human behavior

• Psychiatrists are most certainly not useless, for example they help millions of people with depression live relatively normal lives. Of the options available to someone suffering from depression, antidepressants are by far the easiest path as the other options involve lots of work.

• On psychopaths, and we have no idea whether this guy was one yet, you are talking through your hole. Wrong and right isn’t even a concept with these people, they are solely driven by their lust to control/rape/kill and have zero empathy toward their victims. Their brains lack the wiring to allow empathy, so they are to be feared and of course locked up if they commit crime but there is no point blaming them as they simply have no capacity to give a shit.