The only man to win multiple munster senior cups while off work on disability.
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Whatever he might have he doesnāt have a Munster Junior Cup medal!! Some great players have those in the locker, Cork Con were a fantastic club to manage resourcesnto eke out a junior cup win
Brian OāMeara believe it or not was ahead of Strings in the pecking order at Cork Con when Strings was starting out in the late 1990ās. I think thatās how he ended up at Shannon.
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Yeah I would agree on that point, he played a few underage games with Bruff before going to a senior club. Common place back in those days as there wasnāt as many senior clubs. Alan Quinlan was the same coming in from Clanwilliam so the arguement could go both ways.
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MJC is the hardest competition to win in ireland. Iāll fight any man to argue that point.
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Did The Bull ever get a B&I Lions test cap while at Shannon, or even captain Ireland to a Test win in his time there? @ChairmanDan might be able answer? I hope there are not xenophobic undertones here to denying CJ his rightful title as Shannonās most decorated.
The ultimate honour in the game certainly used to be captaining the country you play for and winning a B&I cap. Maybe the undesirables who have been drawn to the professional game have turned things on its head entirely and these are no longer considered the honour they used to be?
How many games did Stander play for amateur Shannon?
But of truth to that Iād say with timing of it. Fella told me this morn that his brother is getting married this week in SA and he canāt go.
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Thatās like saying appearing in the railway cup is more important than winning an AI club
Fairly sure someone knowledgable confirmed it was 0. As others have made clear from social media posts though, and the IRFU clarified in every teamsheet, CJ was most certainly a Shannon club man.
I saw cork con win one with 2 future Irish internationals and Iād say one past international starting the final if memory serves correct
Iv no interest in the lions pal canāt answer that one for you
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Ah, a modern rugby fan. There is room for everyone.
Maybe Stander is one of these undesirables of the pro era that have turned things on there head?
Weāre club men around here, weāve no interest in the colonial connotations of the Lions.
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Nah, just doesnāt do it for me. Back in the bad old days of Irish rubby maybe it was badly needed fillip, the Lions is now the most commercialised element of pro Rubby
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CJ has always done what is best for him and his family, I would have absolutely no complaints about him at all.
Yes, we have that point from you now at this stage, loud and clear, that you regard test caps won for the British Lions as by far the most important criteria in determining the most decorated player to come out of any particular club in the British Isles presumably. It all but trumps anything else done or achieved in the sport. A bit like the rules in the GAA back in the late 19th century that if you scored the most goals in a GAA match, it trumped any number of points scored.
Essentially you were elevating CJ Stander to the status of the most decorated player out of Shannon on the basis of one second half run out off the subs bench for the injured Sean OāBrien for the British Lions in Auckland in the 3rd test in 2019.
You hadnāt factored the two British Lions test caps won by Colm Tucker in South Africa in 1980 into your matrix though. @Crutches then pointed out to you that the Bull Hayes also has two caps for the British Lions.
Now that your argument has fallen apart at the seams, youāre lashing out and playing the race card. Anybody who dares question your assertion that CJ Stander is the most decorated Shannon player of all times is potentially motivated by a xenophobic mindset, you say.
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Outrageous stuff, il let you calm down there and not give you cause to embarrass yourself further.