No tim. Not being able to match the unlimited budgets of private schools isnât failing in anybodyâs eyes only yours.
It is Cullenâs strength and weakness that he is good at player retention.
But players have still left under his watch.
Again, you have your own as well & did a poor job with them for years. Leinster went to their clubs and helped mould players meanwhile Limerick schools (non private Iâd admit) went to shit.
More Leinster players from clubs of a quality than from Limerick schools for a few years there.
Itâs no different to the second row drive Leinster made about 15 years ago. It ended up with a school like St Michaels producing more second rows than the whole of Munster for a period.
At the time Munster were throwing money at the white elephant stadium and thought they couldnât their way to sustained success.
10 years ago in the Irish squad Munster had zebo, earls, Pom and Murray coming into their peaks in an era Tim claims Munster took their eyes off the ball.
Now when apparently Tim says Munster are doing what he said they should have done ten years earlier theyâve five in the Irish squad. Two of those are still Murray and Pom.
Donât believe the rhetoric.
Yes Tim as has been pointed out Leinster have almost unlimited funds to do what they like. Sadly we donât have a magic money tree in Munster.
no magic money tree
You seem happy enough with the concept in the stick-stick
Cameron Smith was also largely ignored as an underage player up until the point he was about to be signed.
Rubbish. He was earmarked and already playing senior with Logan Brothers straight out of school. Hed have had multiple offers but somehow a new Melb outfit managed to sign him.
The key was how the Storm scouted and signed players.
Correct
They recognised there was talent under scouted elsewhere and went heavy on it.
Incorrect. They paid over what the rest of the market could. They did this by cooking the books.
Cash is king in pro sports. Otherwise its the king of coincidence 3 future immortals went underscouted
BruidheanChaorthainn:no magic money tree
You seem happy enough with the concept in the stick-stick
I donât and Iâve outlined that a number of times and most likely the only Limerick poster to do so.
Iâd ban all underage academies if I was in charge.
10 years ago in the Irish squad Munster had zebo, earls, Pom and Murray coming into their peaks in an era Tim claims Munster took their eyes off the ball.
Now when apparently Tim says Munster are doing what he said they should have done ten years earlier theyâve five in the Irish squad. Two of those are still Murray and Pom.
Donât believe the rhetoric.
A handful of players that all left school by 2008.
What followed them?
BruidheanChaorthainn:10 years ago in the Irish squad Munster had zebo, earls, Pom and Murray coming into their peaks in an era Tim claims Munster took their eyes off the ball.
Now when apparently Tim says Munster are doing what he said they should have done ten years earlier theyâve five in the Irish squad. Two of those are still Murray and Pom.
Donât believe the rhetoric.
A handful of players that all left school by 2008.
What followed them?
An economic crash happened caused the bankers so whatever chance Munster had of competing with the Leinster private schools went up in smoke.
Now in fairness a couple of early retirements didnât help. Munster were 4 time semi finalists from 13 to 19 if memory serves me right.
Rubbish. He was earmarked and already playing senior with Logan Brothers straight out of school. Hed have had multiple offers but somehow a new Melb outfit managed to sign him.
Incorrect. He was ignored until he was 17.
Incorrect. They paid over what the rest of the market could. They did this by cooking the books.
Cash is king in pro sports. Otherwise its the king of coincidence 3 future immortals went underscouted
Irrelevant to underage.
They cooked the books to keep the players.
You realise that the Brisbane Broncos are also owned by News Corp, right?
LionelRitchie:Rubbish. He was earmarked and already playing senior with Logan Brothers straight out of school. Hed have had multiple offers but somehow a new Melb outfit managed to sign him.
Incorrect. He was ignored until he was 17.
LionelRitchie:Incorrect. They paid over what the rest of the market could. They did this by cooking the books.
Cash is king in pro sports. Otherwise its the king of coincidence 3 future immortals went underscouted
Irrelevant to underage.
They cooked the books to keep the players.
You realise that the Brisbane Broncos are also owned by News Corp, right?
Munster didnât need to cook the books to keep Syman Tim. All they needed was the irfu to change the rules like they always do for Leinster.
An economic crash happened caused the bankers so whatever chance Munster had of competing with the Leinster private schools went up in smoke.
Now in fairness a couple of early retirements didnât help. Munster were 4 time semi finalists from 13 to 19 if memory serves me right.
Nothing to do with that. The GFC impacted all.
Munster were off still signing elite players like DeVilliers in 2009.
Munster prioritised sugar hits.
If we go back to what Leinster did with major benefactor money, it was to build the finest rugby facility in the world.
Munster paid for things like a stadium too big for them and overseas players instead of their academy.
Then a couple of years after they saw what Leinster had built they finally looked to upgrade their facilities (UL students picked part of that tab up).
BruidheanChaorthainn:An economic crash happened caused the bankers so whatever chance Munster had of competing with the Leinster private schools went up in smoke.
Now in fairness a couple of early retirements didnât help. Munster were 4 time semi finalists from 13 to 19 if memory serves me right.
Nothing to do with that. The GFC impacted all.
Munster were off still signing elite players like DeVilliers in 2009.
Munster prioritised sugar hits.
If we go back to what Leinster did with major benefactor money, it was to build the finest rugby facility in the world.
Munster paid for things like a stadium too big for them and overseas players instead of their academy.
Then a couple of years after they saw what Leinster had built they finally looked to upgrade their facilities (UL students picked part of that tab up).
The usual rubbish.
Leinster have it all handed to them and a lot of paid by other people and they still get every rules changed to suit them.
Nobody allowed signed props only Leinster. You reap what you sow.
Incorrect. He was ignored until he was 17.
When he left school, as per my point. What benchmarks did he miss before rhen?
Inglis was playing for wavell heights at 17. He too was ignored in your thinking?
I heard Rowntree got the boot over an in incident that took place after the loss to SharksâŚ
I heard Rowntree got the boot over an in incident that took place after the loss to SharksâŚ
I just got a pm over it too.
The level of injuries in Munster is an issue for a decade or more I donât know can you pin that on Rowntree
âMy sources in the dressing roomâ
I heard Rowntree got the boot over an in incident that took place after the loss to SharksâŚ
Did he give someone a wedgie?
The two salaries mentioned combined were 7 figures.
That would fund 3 rugby programmes.
Wouldnât fund half a hurling team in Limerick.