You’ve no faith in your own?
12 of the lads on the go since 2018… Legs have gone and no youth coming through. The end is nigh.
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Jaysus back the lads, yis own them that.
We’ll back em to death but they are up agin it this year.
The following members of the Limerick All Ireland winning hurling squad of 2018 are not in the panel for the 2023 season, Kevin Downes, Pat Ryan, Colin Ryan, William O’Meara, Tom Condon, Richie McCarthy, David Dempsey, Barry O’Connell, Andrew La Touche Cosgrave, Paul Browne, Barry Hennessy, Shane Dowling and Lorcan Lyons. That’s some turnaround of players in 4 years and still remain “top of the pile”
A lotta deadwood there too tbf, but a salient point. You’d wonder how Dublin have fucked it up so badly in comparison
Paddy O’Loughlin aswell. But a few of the remaining have gone & come back too.
But of the 22 or whatever that have been there consistently, they have all been continously in around the starting team or the bench, and those players haven’t really been dislodged yet.
Suppose you can’t just change it up for the sake of it, players do have to earn their starting positions.
Clare will win nothing for a long time, you can bookmark that
Actually scrap that, the Munster championship has no real cachet anymore, anybody could win that any year
But it’s very unlikely to be this year
Not one of those lads who have left started any big games during the Kiely/Kinnerk era and only Pat Ryan and The Dow made a real meaningful contribution from the bench at any stage. (Tom Condon trying to decapitate some poor misfortune from Galway - Flynn maybe? - doesnt count)
The answer is Dublin haven’t fucked it up, Dublin had a golden generation, same as Limerick are having.
Limerick hurling in 2018 were where Dublin football were in 2011, now they’re around about where Dublin were in 2016.
But Dublin had much more panel churn than Limerick did in the comparable periods of time.
All 15 players who started for Limerick in the 2018 All-Ireland hurling final are still on the Limerick panel. Three of the five subs are gone.
Of the 19 players who saw action for Dublin in the 2011 All-Ireland football final:
Rory O’Carroll was gone after 2015.
Ger Brennan was done being selected after 2013.
Kevin Nolan barely played again for Dublin after 2011.
Barry Cahill was pretty much done after 2011.
Bryan Cullen was done after 2012.
Eamon Fennell was done the minute the final whistle went.
Fewer key players for Limerick have come on board over the last five years than happened for Dublin in the 2011-16 period. Barry Nash is the only real key player now who wasn’t a factor in 2018.
In the comparable period of time, Dublin brought through Ciaran Kilkenny, Jack McCaffrey, Paul Mannion, John Small, Brian Fenton and Con O’Callaghan, and later on again Con O’Callaghan and Brian Howard.
Limerick haven’t brought in players of that calibre bar Nash.
Seamus Hickey
Limerick are in big, big trouble.
Cathal O’Neill says hello.
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I think they are done and are a sitting duck for a team who have some bollix.
Cathal O’Neill isn’t even an established starter yet.
Despicable.
He would be in any other county.
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What happened to poor auld ALTC? Not quite good enough at Limericks current level? His woman is one of those “influencers” on social media. I saw a video of him assembling furniture in his old Limerick training top while she watched on documenting the process.
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Agreed.