Munster Senior Hurling Championship 2024…part 2

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Define “weaker”**

**Starters orders

HRH is the most popular spectator sport in cark mate.

Would you ever Tip along to a game yourself? It must be years since you went to one. We need all hands on deck.

He has no more worlds to conquer. He’s won the lot (Munster, Leinster, the league, All-Ireland, Ireland’s fittest family and Clare SHC). All that’s left is a club All-Ireland maybe. Although that ship has probably sailed for his beloved Bridge.

It kind of irked me when Clare beat Wexford in the 2018 quarter-final that Davy’s heart wasn’t in it fully. He was nearly happy to lose by a respectable margin and stay on good terms with his former players. That changed then Brian Lohan was appointed.

I go to plenty of games.

This bizarre new money thing of hurling counties turning on each other is sickening to listen and read.

We need everyone competitive for the game to thrive. Not this epl nonsense we are being served up now.

It’s easy know the fellas who started following when Limerick started winning and the fellas who actually care about the sport.

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I find it very amusing when lads throw at you your an event merchant or whatever the term is when the whole round robin / super eights is the biggest load of rubbish going.

How many lads are getting crippled now just to try and win an all Ireland because of these new formats and scheduling.

Were you born yesterday :joy::joy::joy:

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There was tremendous respect between the Clare and Limerick players post game too. The Clare players made a B line for a certain Limerick too after the game. That’s real class.

Compare that to the howling and abuse thrown at refs and players from the stands.

These fellas all have lifes away from hurling too. There’ll be nobody wanting to ref any games for a finish.

That’s harsh on Derek. He took over a Waterford team very much in transition in 2014. The first year was a struggle (as was Kiely’s in Limerick) but thereafter it was steady progress from 2015-17. Obviously they were a little bit too formulaic and cautious in their approach but he would probably rank as Waterford’s most successful manager of the last 15 years. He took them closer to the Holy Grail than any other manager in the modern era. 2018 was a disaster but in fairness to him he stepped away directly after it. He should’ve gotten more out of Stephen Bennett considering the heights that he’s reached since but aside from that and the Munster Final of 2016 I find that criticism of him is OTT. He hasn’t pushed on in his coaching career since though. Underwhelming stints with Faythe Harriers and erm Laois minors.

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Lads born in the naughtiness thinking fans enjoying a bit of sledging with rival fans and players is a new thing :joy:

Telpis.

Leahy, Davy Fitz, Donal Og, John Mullane are a few that spring to mind that used get dogs abuse from rival fans. The Limerick terrace used to give Mullane lots of it… I think it was 2003 he gave us the two fingers?

@Phil_Leotardo we made the centre of the leader double page pull out that day i think :clap:

But but but the split season

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He gave a pep talk to the Carlow U20 footballers before they lost to Wexford in the 2021 championship. A real dual man so he is.

I’m a bit young for it but, from the stories told, a lot of the 90s was vicious enough in terms of abuse of players. It’s a fair bit tamer now in that regard. A societal thing more than anything, I suppose.

The stuff aimed at Joe Quaid from some of my own crowd (in the terraces) was disgraceful

I don’t think anybody could argue that Derek did improve Waterford generally. He obviously has something and I’d say that (much like Davy) that he’s a good man for a team who are down on their fortunes, give them a bit of structure & organisation, get them playing a certain way.

In terms of actually winning something though… he wouldn’t be the one I’d look to. I think there’s only so far you can get with such negative tactics. You’ll beat the weaker teams and the badly-organised but it’ll only take you so far.

I think McGrath did as much as he could with Waterford, I think Cahill improved them in his first couple of years but they still didn’t get over the line; they were probably a little unfortunate that by 2020 Limerick were a more refined team. 2018 was a probably a big missed opportunity in terms of all the injuries they had.

EDIT- As it stands, the Limerick club Championship is really opening up for Doon. Na Piarsaigh are down their two best forwards, the Well have lost two big players, Graeme is another year older, Doon currently have no injuries compared to absolute shitshow last year.

If Derek gets them over the line for the first time, he’ll be forever loved out there. I think, on paper, they should be winning it. But they are Doon…

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What’s up with Mcinerney or is he likely to be back for munster final?

It used to be bad… You still get it in the terrace but not half as bad. Mullane used to get it bad from us. Donal Og got some awful stuff from all opponents.

You’d still regularly see auld lads explode at each other in the stands today tho. That’s great craic as it’s proper het up… Not drink fuelled stuff from young lads.

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An old pal of mine who played full forward for Cork would regale me about the type of shite that they’d throw at Davy Fitz in particular back in those days

Retired

Cunt :joy:

Who are the well short …