what did you make of the Casey one? You asked me a completely irrelevant question on the back of it.
I donât believe clashes of legs in those circumstances are accidental.
when a fella is trying to hook another fella at top speed?
I did play hurling, I was shit, but i played.
Arguably the more shit and awkward you are the more likely you are to accidentally trip someone. (Not you specifically mate)
I recommend that you could have the makings of a top top referee
Thatâd be my point to an extent. These elite senior IC lads these days are there because they know exactly where they are going and what they are doing.
The Cork lad was clever and ran across Caseyâs run - I have zero problem with that. I donât think Casey intentionally took him down. It was a bad call. Just the outcome was different. I suspect if the result was the other way thereâd be blue murder about that one as well
I find refereeing ladies junior League the epitome of stress. I couldnât be dealing with it.
Forty odd people whoâve put months and years of work in all relying on you making the right call over and over again. Throw in timekeeping, umpires (or lack thereof), pitch markings (or lack thereof), clearly audible regular âinstructionsâ from the sidelines, abuse from sidelines and players, and itâs too hot for my blood tbh.
If I was asked to referee a championship senior game Iâd go into witness protection
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Then giving it big licks when he won a penalty and had a lad sin-binned.
Iâd often meet a senior intercounty championship referee on walks/runs and he is a seriously decent bloke. He has a neck like a jockeys bollocks
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Ah jaysus thereâs some lads that are very awkward in what they do.
being awkward, but the rule also does not specifically mention intent or deliberate. The rule for black card in football specifically mentions âdeliberatelyâ hence the difference between codes and where confusion may lie. Casey tripped his opponent, his intention has no bearing under the way the rule is written.
If itâs not up on Strava it didnât happen!
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So theoretically any foul inside the 21 is a penalty and a sin bin. Theyâve made a right balls out of this
yes on both counts, absolutely. My initial thoughts on Owens call was that he had taken his own interpretation of the rule, but it seems by the letter of how it is written, he didnt do anything wrong, which is somewhat backed up by what Fergal Horgan said some months back.
Where I do have the issue with Owens call, is the common sense application of the rule. The rule shouldnt be intended to be used like he did. A foul out near the sideline shouldnt be essentially an automatic goal and a player off the pitch for ten minutes. It should be for very clear goal scoring opportunities where the player is on the cusp of shooting for a goal chance, not where after a passage of play a goal could arise. @myboyblue said it previously, but if Owens did not give a penalty and a sin bin, no one would have batted an eyelid.
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Like Murphyâs one, blatant and cut and dried proper application of it. If they changed the wording to deliberate like in Bogball it would remove confusion - deliberate pull down, deliberate trip etc, deliberate signifies an intent to stop the player scoring
McCarthyâs foul was definitely deliberate
Complete accident Iâd say, but a foul nonetheless,
Cahalane was in the act of sidestepping Declan Hannon when the collision occurred, he was most definitely not initiating contact and there was no simulation whatsoever involved, goal chance? I donât think so, heâs likely have tapped it over rather than shoot from 25 yards
agreed it was a foul, no qualms, but a penalty, sin bin and yellow card? Goal scoring opportunity seems to be the kicker but there is no clear definition of that. Thatâs completely open to interpretation
yeah, that may help alright, and McCarthys was most certainly deliberate, but more worthy of a free and a yellow card than a penalty and sin bin. There were plenty of times in the league where this rule was applied in the wrong, but none really affected the game so not much was made of it, so it never got air time like this one is doing. I would hope that referees are being told now not to give it in the scenario Owens did, as we dont want a championship to be ruined by a trial type rule which hasnt been well written.
is the sin bin definitely a yellow card as well - so three punishments?