National Development Plan 2021

[Fagan_ODowd]

@Mac

@tallback

@Mac

Was there any mention in the NDP of the Rosslare - Dublin trainline? Anything to bring it out of the 1800s?

To be fair, I think that Wexford is better served than many places with road/rail connections at this stage so I’d say there could be higher priorities out there.

I suppose the problem with the rail link is the Greystones to Bray bit along the cliff? Hard to see that being significantly upgraded easily, cheaply or quickly. Would more regular train services to Greystones, allowing transfer to the DART, be an interim solution?

It is a single line railway south of Bray. There’s 3 trains a day from Wexford to Dublin & back because the line can’t handle any additional volume. Its almost prehistoric. Much of the line does go along the cliff or coast which makes it a real challenge but there’s been no move to improve it at all in my lifetime anyway. They’d be as well shutting the rail line completely if its not going to be improved and beef up the bus network.

Does it still take three or four hours to come up the coast?

[Mac]

It does, with the random spur off the coast from Arklow to Rathdrum and back to Wicklow town, to serve the mines that haven’t been open for 40 years.

[Fagan_ODowd]

@Mac

It does, with the random spur off the coast from Arklow to Rathdrum and back to Wicklow town, to serve the mines that haven’t been open for 40 years.

Mental stuff. Took it only the once on my way back from an inter rail (when inter railers took the boat) and was pretty pissed off with how slow it was.

[Mac]

The best bit is when the Darts are delayed which impacts the non Dart trains and you find yourself sitting in Rathdrum for 20 mins waiting for the train coming from the other direction

[Tim_Riggins]

All people south of Bray should have to disembark from those tin pot commuter trains to get the DART from there.

[Heyyoubehindthebushes]

Sure the train already runs to cobh. Not a massive town either

[Mac]

@Tim_Riggins

All people south of Bray should have to disembark from those tin pot commuter trains to get the DART from there.

The people on the Dart to and from Greystones might be slightly inconvenienced by this

[tallback]

@Julio_Geordio

@tallback

To be fair, I think that Wexford is better served than many places with road/rail connections at this stage so I’d say there could be higher priorities out there.

I suppose the problem with the rail link is the Greystones to Bray bit along the cliff? Hard to see that being significantly upgraded easily, cheaply or quickly. Would more regular train services to Greystones, allowing transfer to the DART, be an interim solution?

The slow train to Wicklow town. Lovely view to be fair.

What they should actually do is move that line altogether and make the old line a bike path. Twould be cracking

A lot of sense in that. Use the motorway then for bus services which would be far cheaper and quicker than upgrading the rail link.

[TreatyStones]

You’d wonder why cars were ever invented given that bikes are so great

[PhattPike]

@myboyblue

How are they at deli counters?

They have yet to fully grasp the importance of the question “Plain, spoicy or suddernfried?”

[Tim_Riggins]

They can get on the commuter.

[Mac]

@tallback

@Julio_Geordio

@tallback

To be fair, I think that Wexford is better served than many places with road/rail connections at this stage so I’d say there could be higher priorities out there.

I suppose the problem with the rail link is the Greystones to Bray bit along the cliff? Hard to see that being significantly upgraded easily, cheaply or quickly. Would more regular train services to Greystones, allowing transfer to the DART, be an interim solution?

The slow train to Wicklow town. Lovely view to be fair.

What they should actually do is move that line altogether and make the old line a bike path. Twould be cracking

A lot of sense in that. Use the motorway then for bus services which would be far cheaper and quicker than upgrading the rail link.

Put the train line in the middle of or alongside the motorway. Tonnes of space around it

[tallback]

@Mac

@tallback

@Julio_Geordio

@tallback

To be fair, I think that Wexford is better served than many places with road/rail connections at this stage so I’d say there could be higher priorities out there.

I suppose the problem with the rail link is the Greystones to Bray bit along the cliff? Hard to see that being significantly upgraded easily, cheaply or quickly. Would more regular train services to Greystones, allowing transfer to the DART, be an interim solution?

The slow train to Wicklow town. Lovely view to be fair.

What they should actually do is move that line altogether and make the old line a bike path. Twould be cracking

A lot of sense in that. Use the motorway then for bus services which would be far cheaper and quicker than upgrading the rail link.

Put the train line in the middle of or alongside the motorway. Tonnes of space around it

So a whole new rail line?

[Mac]

Sure why not

[tallback]

@Mac

Sure why not

Because there’s probably other projects that have a higher return/higher priority and it’s not an infinite well of resources would be my first reason.

I can’t imagine as a Wexford man you give much of a fuck about that though

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

he voted veronica in mate, he will get nothing

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

if someone invented cars now rather than 100 years ago and said they will are convenient but:
will kill millions every year including millions of kids
will destroy the planet & lead to mass extinction
will be inefficient for driving in cities
will sit idle for 90% of the time & takeover public space

people would say its a shit invention

[TreatyStones]

Less of the hyperbolts mate

[TheUlteriorMotive]

Once the Spinning Jenny was invented we were on the path to extinction.

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

once we stopped hunting & gathering and became farmers mate- that was that