(1) Less 30point thumpings
(2)Better teams don’t have to play shit teams but usually other good team ergo hurling evolves at the higher level. Should be up to the weaker counties to reach that level not the other way round. Hurling will never develop if we keep making excuses for counties that are basically shite.
Spot on. WTB making a clown of himself and Clare hurling here.
But how do you measure yourself against the level if you can’t compete against teams of that or even near that level?
You don’t run a horse in a couple of maiden hurdles and expect them to go straight into competing in the champion hurdle.
I think there should be a Division 1 and 2 of some description, but maybe make the 2nd division more competitive?
Ah Runt. Im sure the rather obvious answer to the question you asked will descend upon you in it’s own good time
(1) There are loads of hammerings in Division 2, 3a, and 3b. The point you’re actually making is that Kilkenny, Tipp, and Cork don’t have to endure the inconvenience of uncompetitive games which presumably makes it ok. Everyone else can worry about it.
(2) ‘Hurling evolves at a higher level’ is gibberish. Have you any evidence for that or did you just make it up? On the basis that good teams should only have to play other good teams why don’t they cut Offaly and Wexford as well. Maybe if Dublin fall behind they can cut them too. In other words, as long as the good teams only have to play other good teams then everything is fine. The fact that the standard outside of that elite group is dramtaically worse apparently doesn’t matter either.
I can guarantee you all that this system won’t survive another three years… It is full of holes and will be dismissed as a huge mistake in the end. It’s only a question of how much more damage it’s allowed to do.
I am actually surprised at how stupid, angry & bitter WTB is looking here.
I know, about winning maidens etc, but I was just trying to make a comparison. It’s very hard to achieve to a level unless your competition is at that level.
Typical weaker county mentality at work here. If KK, Cork, Tipp don’t have to endure the inconvenience of uncompetetive game, as you put it, it’s because the best teams should play in the best leagues, the lower teams in the lower leagues, Getting the best out of the best is,in a nutshell, the whole point of sport. Dublin and Offaly fully deserve and are evidently benefitting from their Div 1 status, you could be right about Wexford though.
Hurling at the very highest level has certainly evolved in the last few years, anyone looking at the last two All Ireland Finals cannot fail to recognize this. Your inability to see it explains a lot.
Kev you should stop trying to personalise every argument. I’ve offered plenty of rationale and if you want to criticise it you could do the same.
Here’s a hint, get promoted
So Offaly are ‘fully deserving’ of division 1 status because there are 8 teams, but if there were only 7 then they wouldn’t be? The best division is what the GAA defines it to be and you still can’t offer a defence of that definition. It is blatantly obvious that it is flawed.
Yes but do they get promoted straight from a maiden to the champion?
No, they go up against other likely contenders for the champion hurdle first.
I did way back, you’re boring us all now. As Laz said to Runt, get promoted and stop pissing and moaning about the structures.
You’re well able to personalize things, and went beyond what is acceptable not that long ago. Whats good for the goose and all that. I don’t like you, you have a very condecending and cuntish way, so every now and then i will express that through this medium. Now fuck off and do some study.
As ever you use a debate to talk about yourself which is the only goal you ever seem to have. Work away. No one is listening anyway.
Would two groups of 6 really be so bad?
Top two in each group play semis and final,
bottom two play a relegation semi and final.
That way every team is fight for something for the entire campaign.
Your either fighting for a semi spot, or if you aren’t in the hunt for a semi spot then it means you will most likely be in danger of getting dragged into relegation.
Runt its a brutal analogy. Its Horses, where age is of massive importance. A Horse only runs a few times a year, its more like boxing. Hurling is completely different.
Ah it probably was, and I didn’t think it out.
My point was more about how do you get a team/horse up a specific level of performance if you can’t put them up against the teams of a higher level, that is all.
Your expertise on the Champion Hurdle knows no bounds I see
Ah it was poor analogy put see my explanation of point I was trying to make above.