National Hurling League 2012

[quote=“Mac, post: 662821”]

Ah I get what you’re at now.[/quote]

He’s picking the team, doing the team talks and the line. And he’s taking training.

The other clown is driving the bus and talking shite to the media.

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[quote=“Watch The Break, post: 662822”]

How many senior championship games have Waterford won under a Waterford manager in the last 20 years? The last 30?[/quote]

How many All Ireland’s have Waterford won with a non Waterford manager? How many have Clare won with a non Clare manager?

Did they do away with the tyres yet?

Aidan Harte got the chop after the weekend as well by the way.

Changed the brand apparently

So do you not the answer to the question or are you just too embarrassed to say it?

A stupid afresque question. Ffs.

[quote=“Watch The Break, post: 662830”]

So do you not the answer to the question or are you just too embarrassed to say it?[/quote]

They won 7 games in the last 30 years with a Waterford manager and one in the four years of the last twenty where they had a Waterford manager.

They lost to Kerry in the championship with a non Waterford manager, as it happens, so to suggest that Waterford managers have a monopoly on incompetence would be somewhat silly

[quote=“Mac, post: 662827”]

Did they do away with the tyres yet?[/quote]

The tyres are gone as have all of the back room team.

[quote=“Fagan ODowd, post: 662832”]

They won 7 games in the last 30 years with a Waterford manager and one in the four years of the last twenty where they had a Waterford manager.

They lost to Kerry in the championship with a non Waterford manager, as it happens, so to suggest that Waterford managers have a monopoly on incompetence would be somewhat silly[/quote]

It would also be worth pointing out that they never a Waterford manager who had the luxury of managing in the back door era

As it would be to exude confidence in the managerial ability of an individual who has no coaching or managerial experience whatsoever.

[quote=“Watch The Break, post: 662835”]

As it would be to exude confidence in the managerial ability of an individual who has no coaching or managerial experience whatsoever.[/quote]

Incorrect.

In any event experience is not a prerequisite for managerial success. It can help in certain situations but it is by no means a prerequisite.

Dropping Farragher and keeping Tannion was some fair going tbf.

Galway are at nothing til they hand John Lee a piece of paper and ask him to write down where he wants to play and then build the team around him

No idea how they could drop farragher, i know the lad played last year through injury, he’s really had a raw deal of it in Galway

Galway hurling board commissioned a root and branch report into the malaise at senior level after defeat to Waterford last year and it stressed the need for a prompt transition of talented young hurlers onto the senior panel. This would have been part of Cunninghams brief when he was hired and as last years succesful U-21s coach there is no question he is fully ‘on message’. A much better way to develop the U-21s imho would have been to include them in Leinster but this suggestion was met with a lot of opposition by the clubs.

Shane Kavanagh was rubbish last year for club and county and like Farragher, his performances against Dublin and Waterford were indicative of a core group of senior players who went looking for the exit signs when things started going against them. This point had been publicly raised last year by a few of the 80s team, not that their insight proved in any way helpful. I’d fully agree that the cull seemed arbitary in light of some of the players kept on, Collins, Regan and most especially Tannion can count themselves lucky but there is still time for changes in advance of the championship. The main focus of this league campaign was identifying what younger lads might make the grade or not.

In light of this and seeing that 9 of last years u-21s started the game it goes without saying that our complete collapse against Kilkenny was very disappointing as it suggests not too many look like their capable of making the cut. But there were some mitigating circumstances that ought be factored into their defense here or at least not entirely overlooked. KK had lost to Cork the previous week and approached the game in full throttle championship mode. Besides they are capable of dishing out a beating like that to 95% of counties if their in the mood. Galway were missing 3 of their better performers in Canning, David Burke and Skehill who’d been flying in goals. Most of the younger brigade were playing their 10th competitive fixture in 10 weeks, not to mention commitments to club, college and under-age. They looked tired and they played like they were tired. Cunningham was no doubt tired himself with Garrycastle in an Club Final replay the day before.

How they respond to the Kilkenny defeat against Dublin will be the true acid test in terms of this years league. No one is expecting All Irelands this year but a much more spirited and rounded team is the bare minimum. They proved against Tipp and Cork they were able to mix it and they will need to get physical again if their to beat Dublin. With a return for Canning and Burke on the cards the next day it’s too early to be writing Galways Div1a epitaph just yet

Where has Lee gone?

He’s still playing for Mellows but his hurling has declined steadily for the past 3 years to the point where he’d struggle to make the Clare panel these days.

anthony cunnighma has simply done what every galway manager does. dump a load of senior players and bring in a horde of young lads who played well one summer for a month.

18 of last years under 21 panel cunnigham brought in. that is nuts. the same group got beaten out the gate by an excellent tipp outfit the year before. the reality of that form line is that the tipp squad were put to the pin of their collar to beat both clare and cork in munster
all it suggests is that the management is mad.
going to nolan park to play the current kilkenny set up with a bunch of 19 and 20 year olds is crazy.

one of the most bizarre decisions outside of getting rid of farragher was the dropping of donal barry who seemed to me to be developing into a really solid player but its the classic response of a manager who can only see the bright lights and has forgotten about the nuts and bolts of building a side.

bringing in that many young lads slows or stops their development if you get rid of the older guys.