I only read Tomâs not to be missed weekly column in The Wexford People.
On behalf of the forum, please have a word though. He is letting ye down badly.
Why do some folk have such a problem with teams being relegated? If your not good enough or donât take the league seriously then you deserve to be relegated. Simple as that. We had Clare crying a couple of years ago when they go relegated and Limerick had a few moans as well. Just fucking suck it up and accept it and move on. Maybe if counties started taking the league more seriously and then they may not get relegated.
[quote=âKid Chocolate, post: 759772, member: 553â]We didnt mind that much Fagan. Its not about usâŚ
The important thing in all of this, is nurturing a once proud hurling county like Cork back to some sort of health.
They have some nice young players, and while clearly not capable of competing at the top level anymore, the league structure in its current format will be of great benefit to their emerging players and provide them a great platform to re-emerge in the next couple of years. There is no point being in Div 1 and going 5 or 6 games without winning. This does nothing for their confidence or the management team trying to build a team. They will be much better off at their own level, the games against Carlow and Offaly will be crucial for them next year. THe GAA needs to reach out now, and promote these Div2 games better. Sometimes it feels like the wilderness down there, and you are not making progress etc, 200-300 people at the games, but as Clare have now proven, its the right approach and i have absolutley no doubt Cork we re-emerge in the next 5-6 years, make no mistake, hurling needs Cork:p[/quote]
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The disrespect shown on here to a former powerhouse of hurling is disgraceful. They are still in the top 10 hurling teams in the country and top 5 in Munster.
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The disrespect shown on here to a former powerhouse of hurling is disgraceful. They are still in the top 10 hurling teams in the country and top 5 in Munster.[/quote]
Exactly. Cork are Cork, like.
[quote=âmyboyblue, post: 759853, member: 180â]Exactly. Cork are Cork, like.
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Defeat is sickening alright, but not swapping jerseyâs afterwards is plain disrespectful.
Itâs Corkâs All Ireland to loseâŚ
its hard splitting my time between the Dublin Footballers and Dublin Hurlers band wagon. 
However I think one band wagon will be travelling a lot further than the other.
spot on Taz. Dublin did very little moaning when they were relegated last year. They just went out and won their way back up.
The games in the present league format are much more cut throat owing to the fear of relegation and the Div 1b promotion play off and division1a relegation play off have a real cut to them for obvious reasons. It seems people want a nice little league where everyone gets to the play the best teams and at the end of it all no team gets relegated to a weaker divison
Very possible 
When a team wins promotion in the league only for headquarters to fuck them back down after changing the set up without warning I think a county has every right to feel pissed off! A league with 12 teams split into two groups of 6,top 2 in each group advance to league seni finals its not fucking rocket science.
People would still be complaining about too few games and too many rubber games.
County chairman Oliver Mann revealed they will be getting in touch with Croke Park about reconsidering next yearâs system.
Cork, Limerick, Offaly, Wexford, Antrim and Laois will make up Division 1B in 2014 with the top four qualifying for the quarter-finals against the corresponding best quartet in Division 1A.
Limerick led an alliance of hurling counties in 2011 after they were positioned in the newly-formed second tier Division 1B despite earning promotion from Division 2 earlier that year.
Although the nine-strong group (Limerick, Cork, Clare, Tipperary, Waterford, Kilkenny, Galway, Dublin and Wexford) preferred an eight-team top flight, they succeeded in gaining a compromise with the Division 1B winners gaining a semi-final place along with the top three in Division 1A.
Mann confirmed they had put off taking action until they discovered the outcome of the Clare-Cork relegation play-off on Sunday.
Limerick believe their cause is strengthened by the presence of Cork in Division 1B in 2014.
However, Cork, while they would be supportive of a change to the format having previously voted against it, will not be at the forefront of any attempt to alter it.
As opposed to the more militant stance they took last time, Mann explained Limerick are aspiring to get more counties on their side in a more positive way.
âWe were waiting to see what the make-up of the league would be for next year,â he said. âWe will possibly contact Croke Park later this week.
âBeing honest about it, weâre not going to be seen to rock the boat. Weâre hoping to make diplomatic moves, going down a different road and if it works then it works.â
Offaly, who voted for the six-team divisional structure, now appear to be in favour of another system.
Tipperary, who were originally supportive of the eight-team format, are the only Liam MacCarthy Cup county in Munster who backed the six-team system.
However, manager Eamon OâShea recently called for more counties to be brought into the top flight.
Mann admitted it will take more than the support of those with vested interests to amend next yearâs plans.
âI would just hope itâs not the traditional hurling counties alone on this. I would like to see all counties recognise that the league structure at the minute isnât working.
âConsidering Cork, Limerick, Offaly and Wexfordâs situation, I donât think it (the league) is leading to the promotion of hurling in those counties.
âI would hope that all counties would see that because it needs far more than the traditional hurling counties to get it changed.â
Clare have already privately indicated their support for a change while Cork chairman Bob Ryan also indicated Corkâs but stopped short of taking a lead in any push to revise the league.
âWe wonât be doing anything this week. After what has happened, weâre not going to create any racket because Cork were relegated.
âMy own opinion on the league and its system is well known and would have been long before Cork were relegated.
âWe accept we were beaten but my problem has not been about that but the system itself.â
Last week, Hurling Development Workgroup chairman Tommy Lanigan said they would not be looking to change the leagueâs design.
Mann is optimistic central GAA officials will hear their argument as they are impacted upon both promotionally and financially by another season in the second tier of the competition next year.
âCroke Park are always open to listening to people and hopefully the case that will be made will be compelling enough for Croke Park to do something.
âThereâs no doubt about the challenges we face in the county. Thereâs a lot of competition between sports here and you have to be playing at the highest level to protect yourself.
âYouâre not only battling for the hearts and minds of the younger generation but their parents as well.â
The significance of next yearâs league isnât lost on Mann â were they to finish top of Division 1B in 2014 as they did last month they would qualify for a promotion/relegation play-off against the bottom team in Division 1A unlike last Saturday week in Thurles when they missed out after losing to second-placed Dublin in the Division 1B final.
âThe anomaly in next yearâs structure is you have the situation when either the second, third or fourth (Division 1B) teams could end up winning the league and not be promoted.â
Apart from OâShea, other managers such as Davy Fitzgerald, Anthony Cunningham and John Allen have highlighted issues with the six-team format.
Boring.
In what sense is the league not working?
It gave competitive games to every team that played in it and so far the two relegation games have been close run things.
No amount of switching the deck chairs itâs going to improve things in division 2 counties
Compare the recent underage history of the six counties in division 1 with those in division 2 and stop clamouring for changes.
[quote=âtwiceasnice97, post: 760250, member: 1061â]In what sense is the league not working?
It gave competitive games to every team that played in it and so far the two relegation games have been close run things.
No amount of switching the deck chairs itâs going to improve things in division 2 counties
Compare the recent underage history of the six counties in division 1 with those in division 2 and stop clamouring for changes.[/quote]
What other leagues in what other sports have you watched where there are not dead rubber games?
Russian Roullette League.
Its not the main Competition in the GAA glas, its an early year puck-around.