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He seems like good craic in this

That whole interview is available. Barkley is a full on gas cunt

Iā€™ve flip-flopped on it myself ā€¦ Youā€™d imagine a black person, particularly from Carolina, and with such world wide appeal and stardom would have used it to highlight some issues. I think winning came first and foremost, money and image second and he had no interest in anything after that ā€¦ but is that on him or your average Joe Soap putting their expectations of how he should behave on him?

Whatever about Malone and his underage baby mommas, iā€™d say John Stockton is a gentleman in every sense of the word. Great player too.

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Steve Kerr comes out very well too. Knew his limitations and played his role as he knew it was all he could do. I didnt know the backstory about his father being murdered in Beirut.

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His father was Brian Kerrā€™s first cousin.

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Uncles to Miranda Kerr too?

Jordan was one of the most hard-line owners during the last NBA lockout, he didnā€™t want to give the players anything. Itā€™s another facet to his unwillingness to help others who had been in his position previously. He wouldnā€™t help black people in North Carolina get rid of Jesse Helms (or do anything of note on black poverty/police treatment/violence) and wouldnā€™t help his former colleagues get a faired share of the league revenues, because it would hurt his bottom line.

It belies a serious lack of empathy. Probably what allowed him to rationalise his ceaseless psychological pressure on his teammates.

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He comes across as a complete cunt to be fair. Thought the last episode was a bit disappointing but very good series overall. Thought it was weird the way his kids were briefly in it for a couple of comments there having be no mention of his wife or kids at all during the series apart from some footage of one of his sons years ago iirc.

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What do we watch now?

Didnā€™t see anything dislikeable about Jordan at all. How could you not be arrogant being that good.

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Itā€™s actually not that difficult. Trust me.

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Agreed. He was hard, sometimes very hard, but fair. The man had high standards, some fellas on here wouldnā€™t understand it

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Itā€™s not Jordans responsibility or obligation to be the black saviour or the Colin Kap activist. Ridiculous to expect that and its just one of those twitter type ā€˜hot takesā€™

The man was the most famous athlete on the planet along with being the greatest and most succesful basketball player of all time. Heā€™s shown to be a single minded winner for the ages and youā€™re there trying to denigrate him as an ā€˜uncle tomā€™ because heā€™s not on 60mins talking about race relations :roll_eyes:

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He seems a sort of a Brian Dooher of the basketball world. He has all the traits Jordan had, single-mindedness, relentless, fit, skillfulā€¦ 2 great feetā€¦

Iā€™m watching Eastbound & down again, Copperā€™s mate added it to the tv shows recently.

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Celebrity - SAS Who Dares Wins. The boxer on it - Tony Bellew - is proper mental.

McMafia. Netflix.

The Night Manager. Amazon prime.

The Gentlemen. Guy Ritchie movie.

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Itā€™s why heā€™s a level below the real GOAT Muhammad Ali.

In his more than 30 years in the public eye the former Chicago Bulls star seemed to make a point of removing himself from any kind of political cause or social stance that could potentially hurt his brand and earning power.

Where did I say he had to be the champion of social rights and make himself a martyr. His basketball ability gave him a global platform which only a very small of black Americans ever had or will have. He could have used the platform occasionally to draw attention to the struggles of his fellow man to a global audience who would most certainly have listened to what he had to say if he saw a social issue but Mike didnā€™t do empathy all he cared about was his bank balance.

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Youā€™re wasted on here.

Itā€™s the selfishness that sets them apart. Woods was the same. If they cared about others they may not have been as successful.

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