New Ireland manager

Just as well this is an International job so and there is no wheeling and dealing. Just motivate your players to perform for their country.

[quote=“Thrawneen, post: 855151, member: 129”]Those fucks don’t go to games though, so who gives a shit what they think.

I’m happy with this appointment. Fuck all other options and it’s worth a shot.[/quote]

Exactly pal, who cares what the likes of EPL Fran and Runt think… Ireland for the Irish.

No fucking way. There was always at least 2-3 players slacking over traps reign.

Martin O Neill will bring organization.

[quote=“Juhniallio, post: 855234, member: 53”]Idiot. There’s only about three lads left that ever played with him.

Anyway, rumours have it he’ll be presenting each player with a fixie as a sign of goodwill.[/quote]

I dont think playing with the traitor is a prerequisite for hating him

[quote=“The Wild Colonial Bhoy, post: 855206, member: 80”]i can honestly say I hope Oireland never win a game with these 2 charlatans involved

Keane is already despised by the squad[/quote]

+1

Good thing I’m Italian or I might get very upset.

[quote=“caoimhaoin, post: 855213, member: 273”]What’s wrong with his honesty. Are we still stuck in the “Oh you can’t say things like that” mentality.

He’s not perfect by a long shot, but he has many of the qualities Irish teams have lacked lately, hopefully he can transfer some of this.[/quote]
There are lots of times a manager shouldn’t be honest. This is particularly true when he’s talking to the media, when he’s an assistant manager and when he needs to earn the loyalty of a group of players who can’t be bought and sold.

Two great appointments, first job to get rid of that fraud that is Robbie Keane. I’m sure Roy has seen through the cunt and he will be dropped immediately.

Drop one of the greastest goalscorers Europe has ever seen. Great idea you simpleton.

I think you need to know someone to despise them. Hating people you don’t know is an act of bitterness* and unbefitting for a man who is all about family and the good life.

*with the exception of such cunts as niamh horan, ray darcy, brendan o connor, etc., who are obviously ubercunts.

Most of his goals were against teams a drunk after 20 pints would score against, most of the rest were either penalties are tap ins. He scored an odd goal now and then against a decent team, those are the facts. I’ll leave it at that you clown.

Anto cleaning house.

So goals agaisnt shit teams, penalties, tap ins, other goals. Sounds like an awful lot of goals.

“The likes of Robbie Keane, Richard Dunne and John O’Shea are picked every game as they have a big reputation. A reputation for what? They hadn’t qualified for anything in 10 years.”

Classic :smiley:

[quote=“Rocko, post: 855269, member: 1”]So goals agaisnt shit teams, penalties, tap ins, other goals. Sounds like an awful lot of goals.[/quote

You expect your striker at any level whether it be junior soccer or under 10’s to get the tap in’s, penalties and have a good strike rate against shit teams. Keane was doing the minimal expected of him here being our central striker. His strike rate against the better teams is pathetic, which most people seem to allude too. his career at Inter, Liverpool, Leeds and Spurs was nothing short of a disgrace, he was rejected in at least 3 of those clubs. In short he was a failure at club level. Banging in goals against amateurs in L.A. hardly counts, along with the majority of goals for Ireland against electricians or plumbers.[/quote]

Rejected at 3 Clubs who paid multiple millions for him. This is brilliant.

Best wishes to Roy and Martin.

[B][SIZE=6]A whole bundle of reasons to be sceptical[/SIZE]
[SIZE=5]It is hard to identify Roy Keane’s value as an assistant manager, writes John O’Brien[/SIZE]

JOHN O’BRIEN[/B] – 03 NOVEMBER 2013

[SIZE=5]Back in the salad days of his management career, when he had turned Leicester[/URL] and Celtic into forces worth reckoning with, Martin O’Neill once expounded on the critical qualities John Robertson brought as his assistant. The pair had been acquainted for the guts of three decades by then, first as players under [URL=‘http://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/Brian_Clough’]Brian Clough at Nottingham Forest, then in management at Wycombe before moving on to greener pastures.[/SIZE]

“Sometimes in management, you don’t know which pen to pick up, which bell to push, which player to pick, which telephone to answer,” O’Neill said, revealing a vulnerable side to the confident, erudite figure that patrolled the touchline. “So you panic. Then John Robertson walks in. Panic over. He’d just amble up with a fag in his mouth and change the atmosphere without knowing it.”

You read that small passage and can’t help wondering what it is, in O’Neill’s mind, that makes the selection ofRoy Keane[/URL] as his assistant seem like a good idea as he embraces the challenge to become the next[URL=‘http://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/Republic_of_Ireland_national_football_team’]Ireland manager. O’Neill and Robertson worked, not because the Scot fitted the popular caricature of the No 2 as slavishly devoted yes man, but because he brought a different personality and helped smooth the edges off O’Neill’s abrasiveness.

To see this working, to be genuinely enthused by the prospect of O’Neill and Keane[/URL] holding [URL=‘http://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/Republic_of_Ireland_national_football_team’]Ireland’s future in their joined-up hands, this is the first hurdle you have to negotiate. The idea of Keane putting out fires as opposed to hurling tyres on the bonfire, the notion of Keane ambling towards a tense situation and instantly defusing it by his presence alone. Sorry. Just can’t buy it.

When it comes to filling vacancies for the Ireland job, of course, we have come to expect such compelling twists and madcap tangents. O’Neill’s appointment on its own would have seemed too tame, too common for a football organisation that likes to wrap these things up with a bit of pizzazz. And while it could yet turn out to be the greatest stroke of genius in Irish football, every sinew of your being screams it will be a relief merely to reach the next qualifying campaign with the ship still afloat.

It’s tempting to think there might be some noteworthy triumph in all of this for the FAI. When they finally got round to dispensing with the dead duck reign of Giovanni Trapattoni, the two most prominent names on everybody’s lips were O’Neill and Keane. And now, if the deal can be struck, they will deliver not just one of those prospects, but a double whammy.

But, of course, it’s not as straightforward as that. The talents of O’Neill and Keane blended together in no way add up to the qualities they bring individually unless they can forge a productive partnership together. And, right now, we don’t know of any history they have together, the reasons O’Neill believes Keane could add value as an assistant – even typing those words seems strange – or whether the notion has been imposed upon him. All we know is that there is a whole bundle of reasons to be sceptical.

In truth, we’re in speculative punt territory here, one that will come at a hefty price. It’s hard to imagine an O’Neill-Keane “dream team” ticket won’t weigh in at under €2m a year. And while a portion of that cost will be offset by private investment, it still sends out a questionable signal at a time when grassroots football continues to suffer and the Airtricity League champions cop a derisory €100,000.

The trouble is, perhaps, we have been spoiled for far too long, a lingering legacy of the Jack Charlton[/URL] era when people thought the glory days would never end. They passed long since, though, yet people still pictured [URL=‘http://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/Ray_Houghton’]Ray Houghton[/URL] and Ruud Dokter courting heavyweights like [URL=‘http://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/Guus_Hiddink’]Guus Hiddink[/URL] and[URL=‘http://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/Marcelo_Bielsa’]Marcelo Bielsa as if the prospect of managing Ireland would somehow appeal to them.

All the time, however, there was another option closer to home, less glamorous perhaps, but a hell of a lot safer, much less of a punt. As he surveyed the headlines yesterday morning, a shock of confusion and anger will surely have shot across Mick McCarthy[/URL]'s face. Short of camping outside Abbotstown, [URL=‘http://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/Mick_McCarthy’]McCarthy could not have made his intentions clearer these past few weeks.

That doesn’t necessarily make him the most fitting candidate, but there are reasons why McCarthy would be a good fit. He has excelled most when dealing with players of less than superstar quality, making teams far greater than the sum of their parts, and his uncomplicated, open style of management would even seem like a breath of fresh air after the confusing Trapattoni years

But McCarthy’s desire should count for something too. There is a sense of unfinished business lingering from his first stint and who can forget the story from his playing days of how he missed his brother’s wedding to answer the call to play in a friendly in China? For all that life has changed in the meantime, perhaps a reminder of that old-fashioned sense of pride in the jersey is needed more than ever.

It seems we’re going a different road, though. McCarthy’s problem is that his candidacy, while virtuous, seems just that little bit dull, although that should, if anything, make it all the more worthy. We’ve seen him before. We know what he can do and, helplessly, we are drawn to the unknown, and all the glories we can summon through it. The short-term gain will be considerable. Seats filled in Lansdowne Road and sponsors giving thanks.

So nothing to do but sit back and brace ourselves. It could be quite a ride.

You total and utter simple cunt. How come playing against the same shit opposition players like Henry Villa and Sukar et al couldn’t score as many as Keane?? Like him or loathe him Keane while not a scorer of great goals IS a great goalscorer. Don’t come on here whinging because the beer cup which is steeped in history(began in the mid 90’s) is on it’s last legs.

BTW over 40 of his 61 internatiinal goals have been in competitive games so go fuck yourself.