Jesus mate, Iâm actually making a shocked as I read that
You think that Ireland hasnât stigmatised mental health? Did you ever hear of anybody who was âsuffering with their nervesâ
Say what you want about Bressie but thatâs not true
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Of course I did.
Where was the stigma there?
This has taken a mad turn. Because you hate bressie so much youâre saying there isnât a problem with how Ireland has dealt with people with mental health difficulties over the years and also that actually we are better off not talking about things as we got on just fine in the past.
You really, really hate the man.
Maybe he was misquoted in the article about the voice that treaty stones found? A word here or there could make a huge difference
The article that canât be found on Google any more?
Read the above, and now read this passage from his speech to Oireachtas:
Some days I would sit in my classroom on the verge of fainting as I hyperventilated and fought for air while my teachers continued to teach the class, oblivious to the fact that one of their students was in the midst of a living nightmare. I spent so many of my school days praying that some of our teachers may talk about this, or just say something so I didnât feel so isolated and terrified. They never did.
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Youâre suggesting because something has been done one way for generations it shouldnât change. Thatâs ridiculous.
Why not call it what it was if there was no stigma
I think youâre way off here, I hope you donât think this is a personal attack
The Ireland I grew up in had a massive problem dealing with mental health, it wasnât discussed, it was whispered about
Iâm all for open discussion
I actually think âproblems with your nervesâ is a very accurate description of what is going on in most cases.
Claire Weekes wrote about this back in the 60âs in terms of a sensitised nervous system and her theories still form the basis of modern anxiety treatment.
What is a stigma anyway? Do you not think there was compassion for those suffering with their nerves back then?
Itâs not about compassion, I suppose it was seen as a sign of weakness, I donât know but there was a huge stigma around mental health and depression in particular, dit nt even start on suicide.
In her later years it used to drive my mother mad, she was a âbee in her bonnetâ type of person, she had a brother commit suicide in the early noughties and the refusal to deal with or openly discuss depression in her generation was one of her bugbears.
Some of your posts from earlier are reminiscent of a thankfully bygone era
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This is a bonkers question. Have you any sense of the numbers of people committed against their will over decades in Ireland?
Like what?
This sort of thing I suppose
Stiff upper lip like
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Itâs amazing that humans made it to the 21st century at allâŚ
People have been dealing with polio for generations, it is doing them them a disservice to get the polio vaccine.
Polio can be defined and measured and treated
Can you define mental health?
Iâm not a psychiatrist.
You can surely concede that society has been colonized by the therapeutic; where psychologization is bound up with the demand of self-care, happiness and self esteem - which is placed upon us all to pursue like the American dream⌠a limitless/endless quest for self-optimization!!! All in the shadow of neoberalism and neoliberal governance.
Mental health is over diagnosed, over subscribed and over sold.
It does real mental health a disservice
Iâve genuinely no idea what youâre trying to say here.
When I struggle with my mental health, I always try to remember what Bruce Lee said, it really gives me peace. Iâd recommend it
Arra dont worry about it. Some of us a little picture guys and some of us are big picture guys. Thereâs no right and no wrong. We are who we are