Official 2011 All Ireland Hurling Championship Thread

Any word on Limerick injuries?

Word is Dunph has some serious wind and Thawneen has the clap. Runt is touch and go after falling off the porch

It’s genital warts actually. Nasty little boyos they are too.

How did training go in Waterford yesterday morning?

Dan sounds a lot more concilliatory then he did at half time. That was an interesting interview on the sideline with Davy in the background.

I thought inter county players play in front of 50,000 of a Sunday and go into work on a Monday. Oh wait, they take Monday off to go drinking. Ah that’s gas. They never tell us that bit.

That kills off one of Tom Humphries “100 reasons why the GAA is better than…”. He’ll be devastated.

FFS

I thought you’d be upset about that alright NCC…

The way Waterford defended against Tipp was frankly embarrassing. Not sure if they thought there was an offside rule but surely you try and protect the scoring zone as a unit instead of all running out to midfield or the wing leaving the likes of Corbett 1v1 inside. Clinton Hennessy reminds me of a camogie keeper too. He tries to stop shots with his feet.

Also Stephen Molumphy has regressed hugely as a player. Thought he was non existent against Limerick and obliterated against Tipp. He seems very limited with the ball aswell. From an attacking point of view, the difference tactically between Tipp and Waterford was just miles apart. Waterford hitting high balls on top of Mullane and Walsh while Tipp playing low diagonal ball nearly at all times.

The difference between being good underage players and good senior players is huge. Waterford and Clare are painfully finding that out at the moment.

THE Allianz Hurling League is set for yet another revamp, arising from growing dissatisfaction over the existing format.

Proposals for a revised structure are currently being prepared by the Hurling Development group and will be shortly circulated to counties for deliberation, prior to being discussed – and decided on – by Central Council at their August meeting.

A number of options are being considered, but it’s understood that the favoured one will feature the restoration of a 12-county Division 1, which would be divided into two groups of six (Divisions 1A and 1B).

That system applied between 2005 and 2008, but there will be a significant difference this time in that the leading six counties will be in Division 1A, followed by the next six in Division 1B.

Under the system in place up to 2008, the 12 counties in Division 1 were not divided on the basis of strength. Instead, the weaker teams and stronger teams in the top 12 were divided between the two groups.

Based on the final placings in this year’s League, Division 1A would, in 2012, look like this:

Kilkenny, Dublin, Waterford, Tipperary, Galway, Cork and 1B: Wexford, Offaly, Limerick, Clare, Laois and Antrim. The changes provide Offaly with a real boost as they’re to drop to Division 2 next year, but Limerick would lose out as they won the sole promotion slot to Division 1.

Relegation/promotion will continue to apply, but would not be as damaging to counties because Division 1B will be of higher standard than the current Division 2. Groups of six reduce the number of divisional games from seven to five. That enables the GAA to start the NHL later when ground conditions are better.

Congress voted in April to reintroduce semi-finals in Division 1 from next year which means four of the six counties in Division 1A of the NHL would enter the knock-out phase.

  • Martin Breheny

Irish Independent

2 up / 2 down in each division?
semi finals are a bit of a farce. nice double header in april for thurles or somewhere but you could probably pick the line up now.
this reshuffle will keep the clare and offaly lads happy alright.

undecided about this really. the improvement in the league in recent years is obvious.
whether that’s down to the regular fixture schedule, playing the games in feb to april, or the threat of relegation for one of the traditional sides meaning teams have to take it seriously or suffer in their championship preparations i don’t know.
hopefully we don’t revert to the series of meaningless challenge games of the late 90s.

They could have the top two in Div 1B play off against the 3rd/4th in quarter finals. Give something for the top teams in Div 1B to aim for other than promotion. Disappointed from a Limerick perspective, was looking forward to playing the better teams next year.

it’s a bit of a disaster from a limerick perspective
we’ve shown we’re comfortably a better team than wexford, who would have been our main rivals for relegation in div 1
we’ve beaten clare and antrim twice this year. laois are at a low ebb, even for them.
we could have beaten offaly in tullamore last year with the replacements.
not sure if this is much better than div 2 really, we got 2 games against clare of reasonable standard this year.
all we gain for our efforts is the chance to test ourselves against wexford and offaly?

Agreed. Would prefer to have two groups of six with equal division of better/weaker teams. At least we would get some tougher games that way.

Clare and Offaly dont deserve this but it makes sense.

They should do the same in football with 1a, 1b, 2a, 2b - that used work really well. long way from div 1 to div 4 now. leads to situations where those in the top arent bothered too much with dropping one division while those at the bottom have a lot longer to climb up.

Is there semi finals between the top two in both divisions?

Or is it just promotion and the “honour” of finishing top of your group?

If it’s the latter then it’s very disappointing but I suppose it will sort itself out after the first couple of years and get more mixed as teams drop out of Div 1, especially with 2 going down.

Like Cork? :lol:

is it confirmed that the proposal is 2 relegated?

not much point in div 1b semi finals, what use is another round of clare-limerick-wexford-offaly going to do?