Official 2012 All Ireland Hurling Championship Thread

[quote=“Kid Chocolate, post: 682817”]
There is no way KK will be limited to 0-15…the '95 thing was different…and playing a tier 2 county in a final (Clare beat Limerick in MF and Offaly in AIF) is way way different to playing a top Cork/KK/Tipp side in order to make a breakthrough.
[/quote]Where have I read that theory before?

what?

Those are good points. The price comparison I’m making is directed at the self-identifying Gaa ‘fans’ who acknowledge that they want to see the game but don’t see fit to pay what fans in other sports pay to see their teams. This is made all the worse by the superiority complex of these same Gaa people who regard the rugby fans as bandwagoners and the soccer fans who go to England to watch teams as being plain stupid. Yet, they won’t make a much smaller outlay themselves to go and watch the teams that they are apparently so devoted to. There’s an element of hypocrisy there that’s difficult to ignore.

The business sense of the Gaa’s ticket pricing is a different matter. Clearly supply greatly outstrips demand for a large percentage of the season’s fixtures, but reacting to this on short notice probably requires a pricing flexibility that the Gaa does not possess. Also, if they decide to charge €10 for a low profile provincial semi-final, and €30 for a higher profile one, the likely reaction is the set of fans for the second game being up in arms over the Gaa taking advantage of them. Naturally they would regard the first price as fairer and the second as extortionate by comparison.

Even doing this would require accurate forecasting of attendances on the part of the Gaa prior to the release of tickets, which I’m not sure they’d be able to do. But assuming they would be capable of it, the next question is the level of price elasticity in the market and how much of a boost attendances would receive based on price cuts. That’s the kind of thing they couldn’t afford to fuck up. So if you take the Clare-Limerick football semi-final, you’d have to question how much of a difference a €20 to €15 price cut would make, or even €20 to €10. Will it boost figures enough to make up the difference? I have my doubts.

It does come back to marketing and it’s not easy to know if it’s a problem with attitude or cost as far as Croke Park is concerned. The Gaa marketing director who appeared on Marty Morrissey’s show last year would certainly lead you to believe that it’s attitude, given that he didn’t seem to believe in doing any actual marketing at all. You’d like to think that RTE could be pushed to do a lot more in exchange for the broadcasting rights but that doesn’t seem to be happening either. Even when they do run a 30 second spot, TV3’s adverts are vastly superior to what they produce, it being the same generic advert they use for every sport with the team names changed.

As far as the hurling championship goes, what’s really needed is a change in the key players. Sport thrives and to a large extent depends on uncertainty. Kilkenny’s dominance has pretty much deprived the championship of that for the last few years. If that changed it would inject a lot of new life into the competition, hard to know how likely it is though.

Fair point about the Dubs not having taken a major scalp, kid. People often forget that Clare had beaten everyone in Munster in the two years before they made the breakthrough.

Nevertheless, they are one of the few sides who can actually live with Kilkenny in the physical stakes which is very significant in itself. Personally I have no doubt whatsoever that they’d have beaten Tipp with Conal Keaney last year and they very nearly did it anyway. The major weakness they have is their inaccuracy in attack. They waste far too many chances through bad wides from very scoreable situations or though dropping the ball into the keeper’s hand. I remember seeing them in a challenge where Daly was roaring at them to drive the ball over the bar in an effort to cut this out. Whether he’s succeeded or not we’ll have to wait and see.

That theory about how difficult it is to make a breakthrough by beating top tier teams

Daly will leave Dublin at the end of this season with nothing to show for his efforts but a league title which they defended a year later by getting relegated. The Dublin setup has been too quick in their clamour for excuses when things haven’t gone according to plan. They will lose to Kilkenny in the semi Final and unless they get a couple of lucky breaks in the qualifiers and manage to make it to an All-Ireland Final Dalys tenure will have to go down as a failure. Not a total failure perhaps, but a failure nonetheless

Ah stop, the Dublin team he will leave behind will be far far superior to the one he took over in 2009.

FFS he took over a fairly uncompetitive team.

No issue with that, but he’s not gone off playing pro rugby, not anything close to it. He might have a crack off it but don’t think he’s good enough to make it from what iv heard.

Dublin have limited Kilkenny to 1-7 in a League Final

240 quid for an early bird season ticket for Leinster. 14 pro 12 games, 3 HEC pool matches with first refusal on QF and SF tickets. Full price is about 300 I think. Savage value considering they are European champions

I played rugby for a few years and I was a big rugby fan.
I could drive a golf ball into the RDS from the roof of my house.
Until they fix the scrum and stop changing the rules at the breakdown every year I literally won’t go across the road for it.

I agree with you here but the thing that annoys me somewhat is when you only want to see your team in action only for the GAA to come up with a double header whereby you have to pay almost double the usual ticket price. Surely they could have better flexibility here.

Astute management by Daly telling them to get points and not wides. :clap:

That’s fair enough. But kind of unrelated to the point!

Does your house have a flat roof?

[quote=“cluaindiuic, post: 682829”]
I could drive a golf ball into the RDS from the roof of my house.[/quote]

Why would you want to do that?

If the fucker was accurate enough, he could pick off a few rugby football cunts.

that was quickly rectified weeks later when it mattered

[quote=“Kid Chocolate, post: 682835”]

that was quickly rectified weeks later when it mattered
[/quote] i Thought they all mattered? We threw a league semi final in 98 against cork and rolled over them three weeks later in munster. We paid the price 12 months later when cork built on that league win. Kilkenny are not sure of winning this one i think.

Value is relative. Even if it was €24 for the season ticket some people would not pay it if the product is not good enough.