Yerra.
Losing a bit of weight won’t help lads to prevent injuries.
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For anyone based in Dublin - multitude of courses here
http://www.dublingaagamesdevelopment.ie/wp-content/uploads/Coaching-Games-Booklet-2015-16.pdf
He completely fails to seperate general population fat loss clients to sports people, which is key.
Quite a bit of sense written there though, particular towards start of the article.
But S&C is firstly about injury prevention.
Great to see. Great from kk as well, shows their attitude to deceloping the game. No insecurity there.
@caoimhaoin what level of S&C would you be advising with u14’s?
Would you still be focusing more on the movement side of things as opposed to any actual strength work?
Movement movement movement.
Profeciency in all the basic mives thru the 3 plains of movement is first. Just doing the basics at every training session in part of the warm up for 2-3 years will be sufficient. Consistency is key.
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Any level/award 2 qualified coaches on here?
Yup. You thinking of doing it?
i have been asked if I am interested in doing it with a club I am involved with in Dublin. Would be interested in theory but not sure I could commit to it. What is the workload like with it and how long did it take to complete
it’s not too bad in all honesty. It’s 5 or 6 saturdays from 9 to 5. Course I did was on in Carlow IT. In terms of what you get out of it, it is pretty good, with some very good coaching advice and techniques to learn from it. In terms of outside commitment, I’d assume that by going for this, then you are already involved with a team. You will have to do a few projects with players in terms of working on certain things that you pick as part of improving them. You also have to video yourself doing a full training session and submit. There are also a few other small projects in terms of outlining training sessions and putting them into practice then on the day. Nothing too hard or nothing too taxing if you are already coaching a team.
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No harm in doing them but the courses now are just box ticking exercises and the content and approach is very out dated. Thinking putting kids at cones and telling them to kick from point A to point B is coaching is ludicrious.
Definitely do them as tou will pick up something and it will help with your structure. But whats actually involved in coaching and teaching skills (outside of the holding the hurley the right way stuff) to a good level you will never find in GAA courses.
Make up your own things, steal from otger codes and simply get them olaying the games in as many different scenarios as your imagination limits them to. Repetition without Repetition.
Have you done to level 2 Kev in its current format?
No, but i was talking to someone doing the tutor course recently and done level 2&3 in last few year and he went through it. This guy is doing Phd in skills accusition and i would lean on him a bit for stuff. Everything he said shows we’re still way back. There is still no connection between Movement & skill and that our idea of “skills” is still flawed. The GAA are not closing the gap between S&C (as its truly meant to be) and the games. Its all integrated and from what i have read in it and have been told there is still alot of cart before the horse stuff. There isn’t enough coaching about “transfer of training”. Its still very much “right you do the skills drills, you get 12 mins for S&C…” That needs to be coached at courses. The GAA relies heavily on one or two “S&C” people like Moyna when devising all this. But he isn’t even that, he’s an exercise physiologist, and skills accusition is another field, and S&C another. Moyna is not an expert on everything (i’m not just talking about him, there are others but he is most obvious) but the top brass just throw it all together as “get Moyna in, he knows about burnout blaa blaa blaa”. Same thinking as has the Cork physio doing S&C. They just see the dollars.
However they can be neatly put together to “coach the coach” if you get the right people in from the right fields. The GAA still hasn’t adopted Fundemental Movement & Physical Literacy into the lower levels. And that is partially responsible for the crazy youth injury epidemic we have right now in Ireland. A large reason for that is modern life, but almost as guilty is drill driven coaching with kids and/or lazy & over zealous coaching. Its all very staged, but everybody learns in different ways and at different speeds. There is no allowence for that in GAA’s coaching structure. Its like you do this with u6’s, you do this at u13 etc etc.
The bigger issue, and this is the GAA 's thing to change, is coaches do a course and get a little information and then copy drills or games from others and replicate them but often without understanding the purpose. They send them off and there is no development. Where are the online forums, the interactive seminars, the different perspectives etc etc. These course are still being driven by small groups who however committed largely don’t have the actual real critical thinking needed for coaching at the instructors level.
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Was Sean Dempsey involved with yours? Its a great set up down there in IT Carlow.
fair enough, you may have been talking to someone who is doing the tutoring. They are obviously doing it totally against what is being practised. whether or not you want to take my word or not is your own thing, but the above judgement on the course is completely incorrect. never, not once, during the award 2 I did were we shown or given specific drills to do. to be honest, “drills” were rarely done over the 6 days. the majority of the coaching seminars and courses during the period covered a wide range of coaching techniques and skills, and not playing skills, but coaching skills.
as part of the award 2 I did, the only time we did drills were when we were told to recreate a scenario on the training field. So for example, one task we were given was to conduct a decision based drill. That was the full task requirement. For mine, I picked the decision making of a forward who had 2 forwards ahead of him and 2 backs, so it created a 3 on 2 situation. so the decision was do you keep going, or pass it off. I had to implement this drill with players there on the day, and was assessed on my communication and effectiveness of the task. Others had different scenarios, and all were assessed on how they communicated to the players, how they effectively created the task and how the task was answered by the creation of the game type scenario drill.
A lot of the course was about communication, about how to deal with players, coaches and others around. There was a full day on S&C, with an Irish national sprinting champion going through some basic athletic drills that help deal with correcting the run and positioning of players. there was a very good introductory talk into the understanding and benefits of S&C from a current highly successful intercounty S&C coach. There was talks on video analysis, statistical analysis, media, social media and a whole lot more. There was an emphasis on game analysis in trainings and a stop and correct technique. There was also a good deal of time spent on rest and recovery and the scientific reasons for resting periods and how to keep players from burn out/over training or fatigue.
but we were never once given a drill, or told to do drills or in any way given a structure of how training should be. Each coach has different ways of doing trainings, and all this was doing was giving a full rounded view to get a load of techniques together to get the best training. coaches were encouraged to create their own specific training drills or game time situation to solve a specific problem related to their own teams or players. I didnt take back one single drill from the course. however I took a huge amount of information and understanding for a wide range of things.
you are also incorrect about the fundemental movement on underage. Wexford have been doing extensive work on this for the past 12 months and have been doing club workshops soley focused on fundamental coaching with young kids, with very little or no actual ball skills being involved, just all about agility, balance and coordination.
http://learning.gaa.ie/ABC
to be honest, your whole post above is from ten years ago. Things have changed massively since then.
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yup. A decent sort is Sean. Great set up there alright, nice little ground too.
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The worst thing that ever happened us was Sean getting the senior job in Laois. He was outstanding in the underage squads, being responsible for 3 Leinster Minors between 04 and 07, an All Ireland Minor in '03, and 2 Leinster U21’s in 06 and 07. A great coach. A great pity he can’t be coaxed back in there.
That’s a clamping.
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I’d say to be honest he is too nice to be a cut throat manager that you need in todays game. A great coach and interacts really well with players, but I’d say being a manager would be a different ball game for him. That’d be my impression anyway.
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Exactly why he should never have gotten the senior job. But in fairness to him, he wanted it and deserved his shot. Just a shame that he hasn’t followed the example of a Critchley and gone back where he’s at his best in the county. I think he’s a bit sore over the whole thing too.
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