On this day

Not as much as you were floundering with a shitty togs before the marathon.

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You should really be posting such sentiments on the marathon running thread. In any case, I’m glad to report that on the 11 occasions I’ve completed the 26.2 trip I’ve never had a Paula Radcliffe, Athens 2004 experience.

You need to get a bit of perspective on Spurs drawing at home to West Brom on Monday night. Man U are the specialists when it comes to shitting togs on the title run in.

Man U - 1991/92, five games left 2 points ahead of Leeds and a game in hand as well. Then they shit their togs drawing at relegated Luton, then follow that up with losses in their next three games to Notts Forest, relegated West Ham and Liverpool to hand the title to Leeds.

Man U - 2011/12, six games left, 8 points ahead of Man City, lose at Wigan, draw 4-4 at home to Everton and lose at Man City to hand the title to Man City.

I could throw in 1994/95 as well, when over the last 6 games having made up 7 of the 8 points on a collapsing Blackburn, Andy Cole shit his togs at West Ham on the last day of the season, when opportunity to win the title presented itself.

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:joy::joy::joy::joy: , let’s ignore the 13 titles they won over that period. Deary me.

Doesn’t change the fact that they ‘shit their togs’ in 1991/92, 1994/95 and 2011/12. You could throw 1997/98 into the mix there as well, 12 points ahead of Woolwich at the start of March and they finish runner up.

Manchester United claiming to be founded in 1878 is as ludicrous as if Liverpool claimed to be founded in 1878 because there was a split with Everton.

Liverpool, sensibly, don’t claim that - Manchester United, on the other hand, do claim a false history…

Manchester United was founded on April 24th, 1902. A belated “Happy Birthday” is in order for your 114th on Sunday.

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How twee to celebrate your “centenary” after 76 years in existence.

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Bwahahaha

Unbelievable Geoff

You may be able to buy your way to trophies, but you can’t buy history. Man U are the classic example of that.

The ‘other’ team in North London are a case in point as well. They don’t like to be reminded about the fact that they are only a crowd of blow ins from Woolwich in South East London.

I can actually recall a Woolwich fan George Hamilton during his match commentary on 24 April 2002 remarking on the centenary of the foundation of Man U. Centenary night, 24 April 2002 was supposed to be the night that all but ushered Man U into a European Cup final against Real Madrid at Hampden Park. Instead they drew the first leg at Old Trafford against Bayer Leverkusen and went out after a 1-1 draw in Germany a week later.

:grin:

The Arsenal would legitimately claim that they have been the same club since 1886, regardless of their location at any point in that history.

That case is more comparable to, say, a US sports franchise moving city and claiming the history of the years they were in their former location, say, the Los Angeles Dodgers claiming their years in Brooklyn as part of the history of that club.

They are technically correct.

Manchester United falsely claiming Newton Heath as part of its history would be like Cork City claiming Cork Hibernians as the same club. It’s factually wrong and dishonest.

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A comparable to Man U in an English context would be fellow Lancashire side Accrington Stanley. Unlike Man U trying to piggy back on to the history of the defunct Newton Heath, Accrington Stanley have never sought to claim a history they don’t have by associating themselves with Accrington F.C. the only defunct club from the 12 original founder members of the Football League.

Exactly.

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In relation to buying trophies, you will be glad to know that the bulk of the last title winning Hotspurs team did not come through the youth system, compare that with the Manchester United team that won the league in 67 and European Cup in 68 old pal, the Hotspurs bought the double buddy.

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The issuing of a winding up order and the actual liquidation/winding up of a company are two completely separate matters.
A group of local business men paid the debts of Newton Heath and rebranded the company as Manchester United, like Marathon became Snickers, Opal Fruits became Starburst, Sid Waddell became Sidney, Eircom became Eir, Bruce became Caitlyn, Frank became Kellie…

Pal, I doubt there’s anything you can teach me about Tottenham Hotspur that I don’t know already. You really need to go off and brush up on the history of your beloved Man U, you’re all over the place here.

You’re really scrapping the barrel asserting that Spurs 1960/61 bought the double. Did you know there was once a maximum wage in English football? Spurs 1960/61 were effectively the last side to win a league title under the maximum wage. The minimum wage was abolished on 1 January 1961, but all of the Spurs double winning team were on board by then. Your home grown Man U title winning team of 1967 did have one Denis Law from Aberdeen in the ranks, British football’s most expensive player and indeed the first £100,000 footballer.

The original Mutiny on the Bounty occurred 227 years ago today - fact. Fletcher Christian rebelled against a dictatorial adjudicator and set out for Tournafulla only to end up in Pallasgreen.

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