Full access? By access you mean control, whether that player is getting game time or not?? There is zero incentive for clubs to develop players if they never get to see them. The purpose of any club is first and foremost to try and win something, county representation is fairly incidental for clubs in the vast majority of counties who win once in a blue moon.
Do ye think these lads materialize magically onto county panels out of nowhere?
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Clubs should be proud to have their players get called up to represent their county.
Club managers wanting their players to play league games and attend the odd training session should be out of the question during Championship season.
I don’t think clubs have a divine right to players.
Clubs simply have to get used to not having their county players for most matches, certainly league matches. The demands particularly for young players are mental.
I know U-21 is going back to U-20 next year but a talented dual player in Dublin like, say Con O’Callaghan, could be expected to be involved in all or certainly most of the following (he opted out of the inter-varsities competitions):
County senior football
U-21 county football
U-21 county hurling
Club senior football
Club senior hurling
U-21 club football
U-21 club hurling
Sigerson
Fitzgibbon
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Easily known you have fuck all to do with any club in any of your three? counties. Clubs put forward their players willingly but they are entitled to get use of the players they put time and effort into developing, and the players in turn appreciate what their club has done for them and turn out when they can.
Where do ye think these lads go home to when ye’re not watching them on the telly?
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They are entitled to nothing. They don’t own the players, naturally players will want to test themselves at the highest level so if that’s county then the club should be proud such a player has gone through their ranks and let them off.
I suppose you’d be the type of maniac who would keep his daughter trapped at home in the kitchen slaving for you rather than let her go off and get a good education and career for herself.
Might ne different in dublin or say kerry where playing for the county is the ultimate aim, but in galway and id imagine more places many would pick their clubs over county (they do already)
That’s their perogative but for players who want to play or try their hand at county, clubs should just let them off and have a good go at it rather than trying to flog them to death.
I don’t think a player called up to county should be involved with club until their involvement in the season’s championship is over.
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The last sentence is laughable.
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Players in counties with no realistic shot of doing well in the inter-county championships will be more likely to prioritise clubs. This is clearly happening in the likes of Down.
This is a function of the perception that there is little chance of inter-county success.
Players in counties with a genuine chance of reaching the latter stages of the championships will prioritise county.
Ask any of the Mayo players, for instance, and they’ll say county is more important, several of them already have said this, and if they say otherwise, they’re lying.
You can tell which counties the players prioritise county over club in. It shows in results.
But youd be making them chose which would make put them in a tight position as they’d be seen to favour County ‘glory’ over their own clubs. Not a big deal in say dublin where lads dont know who lives three doors down from them, different story in the sticks
Oh kayy
That’s a really valid analogy 
You haven’t a notion bar what you see on the telly lad.
Pride? Lovely innocent notion.
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And this should be understood by the clubs. They should be proud to have a player like that coming through the ranks that is now getting the chance to test themselves at the highest level. Clubs seem to have a sense of entitlement to those players and that flogging them when they already have a big commitment is some sort of necessity.
The fact is the outstanding club players will outgrow their environment and clubs shouldn’t be seeking to hold them back.
It’s not a perception. Four to six counties (at a push) in thirty two have a realistic chance.
It is a valid analogy, you seem to think flogging a player to death should be a duty.
Would it fuck be understood. Only in a few counties where playing for the county is seen as the zenith, others consider the county team a distraction at times.
Again not a clue. Clubs don’t ask these lads to train. They play the odd league game and they’re rarely asked to train with their club panel during the league.
Imagine the outrage if Kerry and Derry were throwing up a stink about the Crokes and Slaughtneil players being unavailable to them because of their club duties.
Club nazis like to have it all their own way.
Club v County issue ref player burnout is absolute horseshit. Those still pedalling that line are tards.
Most club players involved in Co teams/squads very rarely miss important club matches. Most Co Boards will structure fixtures around IC teams commitments.
The real issue is the club player who will never be on a County panel being asked to sit around & wait for their team mate/s & their County to be out of the championship.
Club championships gave been watered down as too many IC games means the club player will get little notice if he is even shooting the lights out as most IC panels are impossible to break into on club form alone.
When IC games were knockout club games meant a hell of a lot more with full strength sides facing each other with players having a chance of being noticed by watching eyes.
The Gaa could care less about the club scene or the club player. Those bemoaning player welfare of IC players should probably keep quiet too as those players are treated like babies 99% of the time.