Outstanding Meltdowns

The fighter is class. Top class. Bale in that is just ridiculously good.

A lot of Wahlbergs roles are samey, but fair fucks to the guy, hes found a niche and mined it.

Think hes a successful producer too. Didnt he do entourage. Jeremy Piven in that is tv gold

Just checked there. Wahlberg produced the departed. Things I learned today

Bale is unreal.
Doesn’t Wahlburg own a chain of burger restaurants as well

Not to debate race issues here (genuinely) but it’s fairly remarkable that he has managed to put his shady background behind him. He did some pretty shit things and doesn’t seem to get called out on them much - maybe they’re bigger news in the States.

Entourage is based on Wahlbergs early life in Hollywood. In the first episode the Chase crew pass the Wahlberg crew coming out of Ari’s office.

He’s from South Boston.What do you expect.

I know he was in and out of jail as a kid/young man but I don’t know what for

Full Metal Jacket isn’t even a Vietnam movie. It’s a movie that’s set in Vietnam. It’s core theme is dehumanisation and the loss of individuality.

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I don’t recall the details. But basically beating up some chap in a race related incident. And I think there were two such incidents and a few related things.

I haven’t got a list of dehumanization theme movies so I lump it in with Vietnam movies for convenience

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Fuck. How has that been kept so quiet. I saw him on the Norton show and he said it was for stealing cars.

I’d say he is shitting bricks at the moment.

From wiki:

In June 1986, then-15-year-old Wahlberg and three friends chased after three black children while yelling “Kill the [nagger, kill the nagger” and throwing rocks at them.[76] The next day, Wahlberg and others followed a group of mostly black fourth graders (including one of the victims from the previous day) taking a field trip on a beach, yelled racial epithets at them, threw rocks at them, and “summoned other white males who joined” in the harassment.[77][76] In August 1986, civil action was filed against Wahlberg for violating the civil rights of his victims, and the case was settled the next month.[78][79][80]

Another racially charged incident occurred in April 1988. While high on PCP,[81] then-17-year-old Wahlberg assaulted a middle-aged Vietnamese man on the street, calling him a “Vietnam fucking shit” and knocking him unconscious with a large wooden stick. Wahlberg attacked a second Vietnamese man later the same day, punching him in the eye. When Wahlberg was arrested and returned to the scene of the first assault, he told police officers: “I’ll tell you now that’s the mother-fucker whose head I split open.”[82] Investigators also noted that Wahlberg “made numerous unsolicited racial statements about ‘gooks’ and ‘slant-eyed gooks’”.[83][84] Wahlberg was charged with attempted murder, pleaded guilty to felony assault, and was sentenced to two years in jail, but served only 45 days of his sentence.[83][85] Wahlberg believed he had left the second victim (named Johnny Trinh) permanently blind in one eye, though Trinh stated that he had lost his eye in the Vietnam War, while serving in the South Vietnamese Army, alongside American troops.[86][80][83][84]

In August 1992, Wahlberg fractured the jaw of his neighbor, Robert Crehan, in an attack.[87] Court documents state that in 1992, Wahlberg “without provocation or cause, viciously and repeatedly kicked” Crehan in the face while another man, Derek McCall, held the victim on the ground. Wahlberg’s attorney claimed that Wahlberg and McCall, who is black, were provoked after McCall was called a racial slur by Crehan.[88]

In 2006, Wahlberg said the right thing for him to do would be to meet with Trinh and make amends, though he had not done so.[85] In 2016, while requesting a pardon for his conviction for the assault on Trinh, Wahlberg said he had met with Trinh and apologized “for those horrific acts.” Trinh released a public statement forgiving Wahlberg.[86][89]

In 2014, Wahlberg applied for a pardon for his convictions.[90][91] His pardon application engendered controversy.[83] According to the BBC, the debate about his suitability for a pardon raised “difficult issues, with the arguments on both sides being far-reaching and complex”.[92] One of the black children attacked by Wahlberg opposed the pardon, saying: “a racist will always be a racist.”[93] Judith Beals, who had been the prosecutor in some of the cases, argued that “Wahlberg has never acknowledged the racial nature of his crimes” and that a pardon would undermine Wahlberg’s charity work, saying: “a formal public pardon would highlight all too clearly that if you are white and a movie star, a different standard applies. Is that really what Wahlberg wants?”[94]

In 2016, Wahlberg said that he regretted his attempt to obtain a pardon, and his petition was closed after he failed to answer a request from the pardon board as to whether he wanted it to remain open.[89][95

Amazing he hasn’t been “cancelled”

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Well convenient or not, Full Metal Jacket is not well-understood, even by Kubrick’s standards. It’s littered with hidden themes, and a fan of the movie such as yourself could get a further appreciation of it by delving in a bit deeper. That is all.

You describing youself there big lad?

I’ve already said too much.

@EstebanSexface, this is worth a watch:

Dehumanization and loss of individuality aren’t deep themes of the movie. They’re pretty up front

What I get from it, is the slow detachment from reality of the protagonist, who originally was intelligent and eloquent but slowly through institutional breakdown, camaraderie and peer pressure and the terrors of war becomes another cog in the machine. Not just a loss of humanity or individuality, but a transformation into something broken. The vets are as guilty as the drill sergeant in this regard

There’s lots going on, and I haven’t watched it in a while but the interactions of the squad in Vietnam are utterly fascinating. The vets especially.

Its not an easy movie to watch more than once.

How long is it?

Gimme a movie for tonight. I’ll put your taste to the test

War is Hell mate.I think that’s what he was getting at.

You could spend an entire stag weekend shouting lines from FMJ at one another; simultaneously being stunned by the profundity while roaring with laughter. A year or so I wrote a beautiful post on fmj, for the benefit of the forum in general tracksuit in particular. It was grossly underappreciated at the time. I’m beginning to wonder what I’m doing here.
Any lad that thinks platoon is better than fmj needs to grow up.

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Floyd Mayweather Junior?

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