[quote=âcaoimhaoin, post: 886108, member: 273â]I believe fennell tea is mostly used for calming effects, but Iâm sure it has more benefits.
No idea of goats milk causing colic, but I would be interested in where it is coming from. A lot of big business either run down the good alternative methods or they but them up and water them down and package them as natural , a la Coca Cola and Innocent Smoothies.
But traditionally colic is blamed on Cows milk is it not?[/quote]
I think so, we were lucky enough not to have encountered it
Kev youâre getting a little carried away with your conspiracy theories and big pharma etc. You are fairly compelled to try breast feeding in Ireland. The very last resort any hospital or consultant or midwife will suggest is to go for formula.
My baby has/had a tongue tie. She couldnât breast feed as a result, nothing to do with her mother. It was actually a breast feeding zealot who basically said she needs to take formula as well as expressed breast milk because sheâs dehydrated. She was fed from a cup for a few days. This woman was in her 60s, not in the pay of any pharmaceutical company and she was resolutely opposed to anything other than breast feeding in normal circumstances. Even she didnât talk in such ridiculous generalisations though.
[quote=âRocko, post: 886118, member: 1â]Kev youâre getting a little carried away with your conspiracy theories and big pharma etc. You are fairly compelled to try breast feeding in Ireland. The very last resort any hospital or consultant or midwife will suggest is to go for formula.
My baby has/had a tongue tie. She couldnât breast feed as a result, nothing to do with her mother. It was actually a breast feeding zealot who basically said she needs to take formula as well as expressed breast milk because sheâs dehydrated. She was fed from a cup for a few days. This woman was in her 60s, not in the pay of any pharmaceutical company and she was resolutely opposed to anything other than breast feeding in normal circumstances. Even she didnât talk in such ridiculous generalisations though.[/quote]
Iâm sorry, but you have completely missed what Iâve been saying.
There is alternatives to formula, they can be used after breast feeding runs itâs course, in conjunction with it or as an alternative. Of course Brest feeding is the first port of call.
The midwife you describe is the exact type of person I would be slow to listen to
[quote=âcaoimhaoin, post: 886121, member: 273â]Iâm sorry, but you have completely missed what Iâve been saying.
There is alternatives to formula, they can be used after breast feeding runs itâs course, in conjunction with it or as an alternative. Of course Brest feeding is the first port of call.
The midwife you describe is the exact type of person I would be slow to listen to[/quote]
I still cant see how goats mik can be alternative as newborn babies cant digest any milk
[quote=âcaoimhaoin, post: 886121, member: 273â]Iâm sorry, but you have completely missed what Iâve been saying.
There is alternatives to formula, they can be used after breast feeding runs itâs course, in conjunction with it or as an alternative. Of course Brest feeding is the first port of call.
The midwife you describe is the exact type of person I would be slow to listen to[/quote]
But youâre advocating (as an example) using goatâs milk from birth. Do you really think 99% of medical practitioners are wrong in saying it should not be used for babies under 6 months?
I think kev made a sweeping statement, knoes he is wrong when specifics were put to him but is in too deep to backtrack, he will be calling it a wum soon
Show me where you have read 99% of medial people say this. Or did you just guess this? Anyway I was not being specific to newborns as pointed out back along.
Also goats milk and cows milk are significantly different in their actual composition and the affects they have on anyone. Maybe you are throwing all âmilkâ in together.
[quote=âmickee321, post: 886137, member: 367â]QED
that is why some women need to use an alternative to breast milk.
this is some fucking climbdown in fairness from you
do abbo mothers breastfeed?, big huge, droopy tits on them , like teats on a cow[/quote]
The narrow minded Jew has really had an affect on you.
No climb down, I never do, and anything I have said is fair and true. Just because guys here feel inadequate about the general things I was saying (and not specific to anyone, but obviously hit a nerve) is beyond my control. Maybe they should spend less time on here and in the bookies and more time making some good natural good for their kids.
[quote=âcaoimhaoin, post: 886142, member: 273â]The narrow minded Jew has really had an affect on you.
No climb down, I never do, and anything I have said is fair and true. Just because guys here feel inadequate about the general things I was saying (and not specific to anyone, but obviously hit a nerve) is beyond my control. Maybe they should spend less time on here and in the bookies and more time making some good natural good for their kids.[/quote]
What natural food can you make for newborns mate
But you said earlier that formula is no good and only used by lazy parents. Surely that is wrong?
I think itâs more your inability to admit that you were caught out trying to be an expert on something which you know very little about. And instead of conceding defeat to the majority you dig your heels in and spoof a little more
Saying that formula is just a lazy way out for parents is completely and utterly wrong and actually quite cuntish. I hope no one would say that to a first time mother who can be very sensitive and fragile mentally at the best of times.
If breast feeding doesnât work it is presumed - at least in the top Irish maternity hospital my baby was born in - that you will use formula. They give it to you in there ffs. I never heard one single mention of an alternative from doctors nurses or midwives.
Now Iâm not saying there arenât alternatives which might even be better for baby but making out that itâs just a lazy selfish way out is horse shit.
Kev, youâre half right and half wrong as usual. Goats milk has been found to be safe to use in infants, but only as part of goat milk formula, by the European food safety authorities. Goatâs milk itself isnât nutritionally adequate.
