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So any Italian player who played in a team with a good defence can’t be counted as a great. Good to know.

Where’s his ulster championship?

Italy has always been about the collective, not some little prima donna dictating to the manager who to drop and where he should play.

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cc @myboyblue.

no one has given him his tae in a mug this time, he just gave it to himself.

He gave himself a target earlier too fwiw. Perhaps the thumbs are greasy on the screen this morning.

Leonardo will forever be in Diego’s shadow nonetheless.

He hasn’t won SPOTY

Tyrone don’t enter SPOTY.

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no, nembo doesnt make mistakes on the internet, and he isnt some fat roaster who eats greasy suasages out of the deli for breakfast. He meant those taes and targets for himself. Italians are like that, confident and full of their own self praise.

Italy have exited the last two World Cups in the group stages because they couldn’t beat New Zealand and Costa Rica. An Italian team hasn’t won the European Cup in years. Amusing how you’re trying to make Italian football some way relevant in the discussion on Messi’s greatness.

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Canavan is an individual, not a county.

I’m merely fielding a question on Italy.

We’ve also won a World Cup during Mythi’s international career.

The great Totti returning from a broken leg to assist two goals and score one in the knockout stages along the way.

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Or “tfk alright sort of the year”?

Argentina 2018 Qualifying Results.
With Messi
Games 10
Wins 6
Draws 3
Losses 1
Total Points; 21/30

Argentina 2018 Qualifying Results.
Without Messi
Games 8
Wins 1
Draws 4
Losses 3
Total Points; 7/24

Without Messi they lost to Paraguay, Ecuador & Bolivia. None of whom ultimately qualified.
With him they only lost to Brazil.
If only he’d do more though :joy:

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Not a great. Never brought Roma to a champions league.

Nobody ever brought Roma to a Champions League.

Messi can’t do what Maradona and Kempes have done in the past - not a great.

And Messi scored from play in 3 of those 10 games.

The fulcrum of Argentina’s qualification has been a miserly defence that didn’t cough up goals. They were the lowest scorers of the the top 5 teams in SA qualification.

https://twitter.com/Eliminastrio/status/917954525847269376

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Are you confusing individual awards with team successes?