Ah yea of course but it must surely still make a difference. I very much doubt its as simple as labane is making out. Democrats equal shit holes. I’d imagine it’s slightly more complex than that
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I have it at 65% here, will amend but I definitely read that somewhere
When you figure out how to seize the over 300 millions guns in circulation, a good percentage of them in the hands of violent criminals, let us know.
Maybe a flowers for guns exchange program.
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Fulvio made a good point a while back comparing the blacks in America to the likes of catholics in the North and about organised violent resistance. It’s hard to believe some black people haven’t formed a properly effective terrorist style organisation in recent years. Even the black panthers seemed harmless enough did they ever pull off any big spectaculars?
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Stop selling bullets
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Yes, of course, minorities vote Democrat and blacks vote overwhelmingly Democrat.
The issue though is the cities with the worst problems by far are run by Democrats and have been for decades, many since the 60s (did you do your homework yet @EstebanSexface? I checked the top 10 most violent cities, all run by Democrats). They have massive budgets and yet no progress whatsoever has been made in solving either poverty or violent crime? Why is that?
One of the biggest issues is that the middle class have fled these cities to the suburbs over the same decades, and before someone says that’s also racism, a higher percentage of blacks have left for the suburbs.
A single parent family doesn’t mean fatherless mate. In divorces the mom usually keeps the kids, the father may still be involved.
It’s nowhere near a majority.
We should also stop the sale of cocaine, meth, etc. Any more easy solutions?
So you reckon yanks are so mental they’d go on the black market and illegally buy bullets in the same quantity? Even if it was illegal
Do you think most guns bought by criminals in the US are legally bought? 
Guns will never be illegal in the US, not even Democrats would go there. Assault weapons yes.
Criminals will get guns anyway.
Do you not think the fact that Billy Bob can rock up and buy a gun and crates of ammo is a problem?
Are you in favour of the right to bear arms?
So only criminals will have guns? Excellent idea.
Assault weapons should be banned, no civilian needs them.
Absolutely in favor, the vast vast majority of gun owners are law abiding.
I presume you’ve posted it here before but what’s your reason for so many blacks being poor violent involved in crime imprisoned uneducated etc if not racism and discrimination and what’s your solution? Are they just an inferior people maybe
Only criminals have guns here, they aren’t easy got. Nobody is blasting the fuck out of schools and what not.
Very stringent checks in order to get a license for a firearm here. We don’t have gun problems.
In countries where only criminals have guns we don’t see near the amount of gun crime as in the US, what’s so strange or bad about that
It’s a fucking joke
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There is absolutely no evidence for a biological reason. There are many examples of black races that have come to the US such as Nigerian Americans and Haitian Americans that have much lower violent crime rates than the general population, let alone the African American stats. Education is obviously a huge issue, but there is a culture of violence in some black communities, to deny it is head in the sand stuff.
You’ve made this point a few times now.
Most obviously, on the previous thread you had made an absolutely ridiculous comment that no-one ever talks about why rates of violent crime are higher among the black community. I pointed out to you that the left has been offering reasons for this for decades and even gave you a big quote from Obama’s most famous speech where he addressed the matter. Your response getting schooled like that was to basically say the left were all idiots because the most violent cities had liberal mayors.
In other words, you used the “most violent cities have liberal mayors” argument to just completely ignore the point that had been made, namely that liberals have spent plenty of time discussing the reasons for high rates of violence in the black community and you wanted, for your own reasons, to pretend that this debate never happened and instead leave the question hanging as an “elephant in the room” as if you were the only truth-talker brave enough to ever consider the issue, when that is absolutely not the case.
I’m going to break this down for you now, in very easy steps.
- Most large urban centres all around the world have more liberal politics compared to the countryside, regardless of the crime rate in those urban areas because most urban voters have a more cosmopolitan view of social issues like women’s rights and gay rights than rural voters do. This liberal/conservative divide between urban and rural areas is the same in every country on earth- Iran, Turkey, USA, Ireland, everywhere.
- All around the world the crime rate is mostly higher in urban centres than rural areas.
- Of the 100 biggest urban centres in the USA (the “Top 100”), 72 have Democrat mayors and 28 have Republican mayors. This is exactly what you would expect because, as we have just discussed, most people living in urban areas have fairly liberal values. (72%)
- If we look at the 25 US cities with the worst crime rate, (the “Worst 25”), 22 have Democrat mayors and 3 have Republican mayors. (88%)
- This is means that if an urban centres have very bad crime rates they are slightly more likely to have Democrate mayors (88% likely, compared with 72% likely amongst the Top 100 generally)
- This means that the Worst 25 are 12% more likely to have Democrat mayors than the Top 100. 12% is a small but statistically significant difference.
- However, it must be considered that the Worst 25 are disproportionately poor. There is a lot of crime in the Worst 25 because they have a lot of poor people.
- The poor people who live in the Worst 25 are more likely to vote Democrat because poor people are more likely to vote Democrat generally. The Democrats usually try to target poorer voters than the Republicans.
- So really it’s surprising that the difference between Democrat mayors between the Worst 25 and the Top 100 is only 12%. You’d expect it to be bigger.
- It is entirely unconvincing therefore for you to say that “all the worst cities for crime have Democrat mayors”. Most large urban centres vote Democrat full-stop and those with high crime rates are slightly (to be exact 12%) more likely to vote Democrat but that can be explained by the higher percentage of poorer voters in those places.
- You are clearly not retarded, yet you are clearly making a very retarded argument.
- I conclude that you just want any excuse to be angry. You just want an excuse not to listen to inconvenient arguments (eg. anyone describing themselves as a liberal) because you need to convince yourself that you’re completely right and the smartest person in the room. Then you can feel justified being as angry as you want and pouring all your problems into contempt for other people and spend all day explaining stuff, which you love to do.
- Be gone with you.
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It’s utterly ridiculous to compare the US to a country like Ireland. Ireland is a very peaceful and crime free country in comparison. Why nor compare the US to Hondurus while you are at it.
What do you mean by education being an issue and what do you mean by a culture of violence?