RAVENOUS (Part 2)

[gilgamboa]

It’s rising by 80c in Jan

It will have gone from 9.80 an hour in 2019 to 13.70 in 2025 I think

I am absolutely not against minimum wage employees being treated fairly…but that is a phenomenal hike in pay that small business have been asked to carry along with rates increases, electricity costs going up, interest rate rises etc

The risk is a lot of these minimum wage employees will end up on social welfare when the level of businesses closing increases

[Kyle]

Minimum wage goes up then your pint, coffee or breakfast roll with beans will also go up.

It’s a fine line

[TheUlteriorMotive]

It’s no wonder young lads working part time living at home are flat out on the cocaine.

[iron_mike]

@gilgamboa

It’s rising by 80c in Jan

It will have gone from 9.80 an hour in 2019 to 13.70 in 2025 I think

I am absolutely not against minimum wage employees being treated fairly…but that is a phenomenal hike in pay that small business have been asked to carry along with rates increases, electricity costs going up, interest rate rises etc

The risk is a lot of these minimum wage employees will end up on social welfare when the level of businesses closing increases

A lad in college could get an extra 20o notes a week along with the Suzi grant.

[glasagusban]

@gilgamboa

I’m thrilled for them pal. But it’s a typically populist government move, like double dole and children’s allowance that feels good for everyone who gets it but are any of us really better off? I’d say the 40 quid a week wage increase someone on the minimum wage got last year didn’t go far offsetting increased rent, electricity costs etc etc

What a dogs dinner of a post.

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

@glasagusban

@gilgamboa

I’m thrilled for them pal. But it’s a typically populist government move, like double dole and children’s allowance that feels good for everyone who gets it but are any of us really better off? I’d say the 40 quid a week wage increase someone on the minimum wage got last year didn’t go far offsetting increased rent, electricity costs etc etc

What a dogs dinner of a post.

It isn’t really. We should the keep everything cheap and
Wages low. Instead of wages high and everything expensive.

I’d say Ireland could start getting a lot more expensive too. It’s a safe place. No real severe weather, no wars and we idolise the wealthy. It’s a very safe place for somebody with money.

[glasagusban]

Keep everything cheap by starving people on minimum wage is it?

This is more ridiculous than the post above.

[gilgamboa]

@glasagusban

Keep everything cheap by starving people on minimum wage is it?

This is more ridiculous than the post above

Who said anything about starving people? When the cost of production of food goes up because the labour input cost has gone up who wins?

People have more money in their pay packet and no more money at the end of the week. It is hardly rocket science

[glasagusban]

Yeah suppressing the minimum wage is definitely the way to address that.

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

@glasagusban

Keep everything cheap by starving people on minimum wage is it?

This is more ridiculous than the post above.

Where did I say that?

[gilgamboa]

@glasagusban

Yeah suppressing the minimum wage is definitely the way to address that

The original point in all of this was businesses are closing because labour costs, as well as other costs have gone through the roof. Is making minimum wage jobs unsustainable a good plan?

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

Keep things cheap.

[Kyle]

That simpleton thinks small businesses who are just about getting by aren’t going to pass on the rise in wages

Bigger businesses will too but not to the same degree.

Without meaningfully tackling the cost of goods / materials / foods / rents / gas and lecky… then small rises in minimum wage dont really serve anyone

[glasagusban]

Good point. Poor people are already poor so they can afford to be a bit poorer.

[gilgamboa]

@glasagusban

Good point. Poor people are already poor so they can afford to be a bit poorer

You don’t appear to have any point

And they will definitely be a bit poorer if their minimum wage employer closes his doors

[caulifloweredneanderthal]

My Mrs works in a type of place (drapery/ department store) that would by and large pay minimum wage, but they don’t. They pay a bit higher and each time the government increases, they increase a little higher to get them to a cost of living wage or closer to it anyway.

How do they do it? They’re a family business. The father, the mother (divorced as it turns out from each other) and the daughter all work there as well. They spend about six days each a week working there and run a tight ship. They’ve plenty of staff but don’t overstaff.

They won’t be closing down over increasing their staff’s wages. Bigger competitors came into town and they fought them off.

[gilgamboa]

Fair play to them

Plenty businesses like that around the place.

Plenty that are paying massive rents and mortgages also who are surviving week to week

[glasagusban]

My point is you’re talking through your hole.

[gilgamboa]

@glasagusban

My point is you’re talking through your hole.

Ah I get you now. Thanks for engaging

[peddlerscross]

Once you go out of London and the big cities in the UK, you can still get a pint for around £2 .

Now these places would be grim but cheap as chips.