And Limerick bate Tipp. Great times
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The Marxist agitators are now saying the hoi polloi are too stupid to have a vote. They are revealing their anti-democracy credentials that we’ve always suspected.
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The best thing the No campaign did this time around was keep Senator Ronan Mullen on a muzzle.
McDowell & Steen are eminently qualified and skilled to debate on these topics. The public believed them over career politicians like Martin and that Meath ape Thomas Byrne.
On the political side then you had Peadar Toibin - a well respected TD - taking on the rest of the political establishment. And the people had enough of the groupthink since Covid of all the main political parties doing and saying the same thing.
It’s a great day for democracy. The electorate can’t be taken for granted. Maybe, just maybe, the government and opposition will start listening to people on their views over immigration, housing and health.
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Varadkar, O Gorman, Eamon Ryan and the likes have absolutely nothing in common with 90% of the irish people and 100% of rural Ireland.
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Great to see Senator Gerard Craughwell giving it the big ‘un at the count centre earlier following the results announcement.
He’ll drink some porter tonight.
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Imagine asking people to vote for something they could even explain themselves
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A momentous day in Irish political history and a complete repudiation of woke politics by the Irish people.
Will it lead to anything? There’s a massive gap in the market. FF are nothing, just went into government to make sure champ could be taoiseach. No other reason. FG admitted after the last election they did not have a mandate, yet went in anyway. With varadker abandoning anything resembling a conservative principle in a desperate and futile attempt to be liked on Twitter. An embarrassment. The greens with no public support and no idea what the public wants. Why are they driving agendas? Outside of a few suburbs, they are despised.
And what’s the opposition, SF who are having a year’s long panic attack at the thought of having to actually govern, knowing they are truly incapable.
So what’s the other options. Independents, maybe a collection of them loosely banded together, that never works well. Or can Toibín get a full party together. There’s seats there if he can. He comes across as a truly honourable man, steadfast in his principles. So the opposite of Leo. I hope he sets out his stall and waits for his chance. Ireland needs a few reasonable politicians, not ones who view changing the most important legal document in the country for a few likes online as a fruitful endeavour.
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He was interviewed in the Sindo about the wording two weeks ago and he was incredibly wishy washy about it. “The courts will decide”.
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Now that the dust is starting to settle on this one it’s time to focus on the real referendum happening in a few months. You thought asking lads to vote on the constitutional status of their mammies was divisive you ain’t seen nothing yet…
I thought this line in Pat Leah’s article on the fallout from this captured quite a bit
“Those who purport to speak for workers and women and people with disabilities supported the measures – but very many workers and women and people with disabilities didn’t. Obvious questions now present themselves for these groups.
On this question anyway, the NGOs seemed to speak principally for themselves. This Government and probably future ones are likely to take note of that”
A lot of those NGOs and other lobby group organisations seem to have lost the run of themselves as to what actually matters to those they purport to represent. It is to the shame of this gov and ministers that they are given as much access and listened to as much as they are.
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And one of them had e mails in that tranche of advice from the AG.
Hopefully some more light can be shed on whatever involvement they had.
On the last bit, what are the people saying about immigration housing and health that the Government disagree with
Putting your hopes on a party with one TD isnt a great idea
Mcdowell wants to set up a party but he thinks a lot of the rural independent types are too uncouth
Mcdowell too?
https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1766469195657527566?t=0xdKgUCbyGhU9xX95ETFTg&s=19
This is a very good point in fairness
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According to ChatGpt survey in the Sindo, ‘‘Not Sure’’ is a gender. Says a lot.
Is that not a very obvious point? I think Gav has a soft spot for his fellow meathman. Does he sense the tide turning though?
He articulates the point well there in a reasonable way
Depends on the quality of that one TD, and how picky he is finding good candidates. Not easy.
McDowell would not look good pretending to mix with the commoners in the west. I doubt he’d try.
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He does. The groupthink as I saw it written in a post earlier isn’t much use.