It isn’t just economy vs health. This lockdown will also cause serious health problems.
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Italy is in a bad way, the first week is was all balcony videos of people singing etc, now they are all inside depressed and suicidal. The country will be destroyed if they don’t do something soon
When did they go into lockdown?
start of March sometime
The scenes from the Italian hospitals have been shocking, and make for grim television. But television is not science.
Since that was written UK’s deaths have shot up and two teenagers with no underlying issues have died - there’s a lot we dont know yet, and there’s certainly some scaremongering going on - but whatever about people with underlying issues dying naturally every year, the spike in ICU patients is real. As always, the truth will be somewhere in the middle when all this is over but caution is probably the best side to err on now …
A friend of the mrs who she has met at some baby group has just lost her grandmother to it with no underlying issues, early 70s, and her uncle that lived with the grandmother is in a coma over a week, only 41 with no underlying issues- but is overweight.
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You’re probably not far off there.
I’d like to see data on how many healthy people are testing positive for the virus (because the test has been confirmed as flawed). Are people incorrectly ending up on powerful antiviral drugs, with associated side effects? Are patients on mechanical ventilators being given incorrect doses/flow rates because doctors are being pushed to breaking point, resulting in lung collapse or other issues?
At what stage would we need to say that this virus cannot be contained or defeated; (measures that were implemented over in the Far East cannot be introduced here as it’s too late). A state of lockdown cannot go on indefinitely, or you are effectively advocating a dictatorship if you believe that it should. There would surely come a point where a resignation would come in that we’ve done all we can to contain it, but it’s not enough.
How would you balance out the deaths of mainly old and infirm with the need to restore normality in order to prevent another mortgage crisis, societal breakdown and a possible spate of suicides, God forbid.
There would have to be an acceptance by all that they would lose loved ones to Covid 19, that this would be this generation’s sarcrifice.
There is that sunny disposition that we love so much
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You seem a bit mad.
Happy Friday mate
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I dont know mate — I had a mate send me on one of these conspiracy type videos from the states earlier - it was being made out that hospitals and media are lying about the numbers and the amount of people turning up at hospitals. You have the scaremongering going around on whatsapp, news outlets all trying to be the first with any breaking story … it’s over saturation of information, leading to panic and a million different theories. Then you have politicians playing politics with it and distorting info to suit their agenda… It’s an awful age we live in , in some ways. Every mother fucker has a message that the world needs to hear. And fuck knows where the truth is… Breda off Facebook could very well be telling the truth.
when you hear of healthy people with no underlying issues dying it’s a cause for concern - they do seem to be a minority tho but still, it’s worrying - who wants to run the risk of being the unlucky 1 in 100 or 1000 or whatever the odds are?
And to you
You could be right insofar that the truth lies somewhere in the middle, but that could be a false equivalence too. Seemingly healthy people drop dead every single day. Look at Conor Connelly (RIP), the former Roscommon footballer. Fit as a fiddle, and died suddenly while out running.
The point is do the ends justify the means here? A full-scale lockdown for something on which the numbers are clearly being manipulated.
Manipulated by who?
I don’t these conspiracy theories. Sure this suits no one. The only possibly manipulation would be trying to make it seem less bad than it is so economies could get going
You’ll cause a break down in society more quickly with health services and hospitals being overrun than with a lockdown/lock-in. The real trick here will be how to stage and pace the relaxing of lockdown measures which will likely take place from
end of May
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Not after 6 days anyway
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That’s exactly what I suggested yesterday. The lock down measures could prevent the virus but create far worse issues for us. The nursing homes will still need to be locked down but we need to think about how people can return to some form of normality.
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