you finished with a question mark so obviously you weren’t fully convinced yourself…
Yes my saying it has to be Dublin really required that overwrought response from you. Also your response seemed definite that Dublin wouldnt resort to your outlined concept when, given we’re only halfway through the decade, and that Dublin are experimenting with sweepers in the O Byrne Cup seems quite optimistic.
even for you that is one of the most pathetic posts…
Overwrought??..because I gave a reason for my opinion , on an internet forum??..
are you braindead or is it just brainfreeze from the basement being particularly chilly this time of year???..you asked who was the team so far… not who is going to be!!..and i didn’t think the criterira was for O’Byrne cup performances this decade…
[QUOTE=“scumpot, post: 1069781, member: 182”]even for you that is one of the most pathetic posts…
Overwrought??..because I gave a reason for my opinion , on an internet forum??..
are you braindead or is it just brainfreeze from the basement being particularly chilly this time of year???..you asked who was the team so far… not who is going to be!!..and i didn’t think the criterira was for O’Byrne cup performances this decade…[/QUOTE]
Oh dear, you really are rattled lately aren’t you? Can’t believe it was that easy 
So scumpot agrees with me, as things stand, at the halfway point of the decade Dublin are the team of the 2010’s.
Any thoughts on the 90’s @Bisto ol pal?
Dublin are conditioned gym monkeys.
Where as you are just a monkey.
You’re a hun monkey.
The humour on this site is just terrible these days.
Dublin are far from gym Monkeys by the way, and as long as the nordies look at them and see “muscle” and the more gym work those morons do, the slower they will be to the ball.
I believe teams tried to copy Corks conditioning a few years ago, one of them was Down I think, a couple of others like Longford then.
The program or general jist of it got around, maybe after Aidan O Connell did a presentation.
Anyway all the running is based in a test called MAS. So basically ever run is done to length and time then suited to each individual. A lay mans description could be One lad has 15 secs to run 75 meters and he gets 15 rest. Another guy, a better runner, has to run 82 meters in the same time.
Anyway, all the fucking idiots kinda did the running, but had never done the test that decided what you run. They just copied the program without the rationale or indeed the basis.
I believe Armagh have done something similar with weights last year or year before.
That’s brain dead, and even though only Donegal has the talent anyway to be competitive at the top, that stupidity and mimicking kills teams.
[QUOTE=“myboyblue, post: 1069802, member: 180”]Oh dear, you really are rattled lately aren’t you? Can’t believe it was that easy
So scumpot agrees with me, as things stand, at the halfway point of the decade Dublin are the team of the 2010’s.
Any thoughts on the 90’s @Bisto ol pal?[/QUOTE]
I don’t really remember pre '86…but after it was probably Meath … they were as old skool as old skool gets…saying that Cork had some lovely footballers around then too… Tompkins, Barry, Allen, Mccarthy,Paul McGrath,O driscoll,…two teams with totally contrasting styles…Metah were filthy in those games…
[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 1069850, member: 273”]The humour on this site is just terrible these days.
Dublin are far from gym Monkeys by the way, and as long as the nordies look at them and see “muscle” and the more gym work those morons do, the slower they will be to the ball.
.[/QUOTE]
Don’t encourage the child kev…an Armagh fan calling another team out for being gym monkeys…
[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 1069850, member: 273”]The humour on this site is just terrible these days.
Dublin are far from gym Monkeys by the way, and as long as the nordies look at them and see “muscle” and the more gym work those morons do, the slower they will be to the ball.
I believe teams tried to copy Corks conditioning a few years ago, one of them was Down I think, a couple of others like Longford then.
The program or general jist of it got around, maybe after Aidan O Connell did a presentation.
Anyway all the running is based in a test called MAS. So basically ever run is done to length and time then suited to each individual. A lay mans description could be One lad has 15 secs to run 75 meters and he gets 15 rest. Another guy, a better runner, has to run 82 meters in the same time.
Anyway, all the fucking idiots kinda did the running, but had never done the test that decided what you run. They just copied the program without the rationale or indeed the basis.
I believe Armagh have done something similar with weights last year or year before.
That’s brain dead, and even though only Donegal has the talent anyway to be competitive at the top, that stupidity and mimicking kills teams.[/QUOTE]
Armagh were one of the top footballing teams last year, no county utilised foot passing more.
Dublin are gym monkeys, everything is run, run, run. They have huge muscle bound freaks on their team all the pitch over. While there is a lot of these types of players on all GAA teams, most Ulster teams have a good few players who don’t focus too heavily on the gym.
Those were kill or be killed times, when the likes of an O Rourke or Stafford could kill you by scoring or with an elbow. Then you had the likes of Cahillane, Hayes, Tomkins, Davis, Lyons, Connell etc could all mix it with the best/worst. Has to be Meath though really, even if it was a completely different team there was still a small crossover between the beaten teams in early 90s and winning ones of mid to late. Case to be made for Down too of course now that I think of it.
Ya, Cork had toughened up by '90 though.
What I’d do for Couhihan or Cahalane or Stevie O Brien to be 20 again.
Cork haven’t produced 3 hard backs like that together ever. That was the main difference with that team.
Shields and O Leary were somewhat similar recently and again that brought success.
We have always had serious forwards. Any year in Cork there are 2-3 class forwards nowhere near the panel absolutely tearing it up.
I think the migration of Kerrymen to the west of the city all came from South and East Kerry, also known for it’s nice forwards. We haven’t enough North Kerry men coming in.
Nemo are not producing the hard men either. They have their hard men, it’s just they don’t have the footballers. Apparently they have become a bit of a nice team, which is surprising as SOB is over them.
[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 1069850, member: 273”]The humour on this site is just terrible these days.
Dublin are far from gym Monkeys by the way, and as long as the nordies look at them and see “muscle” and the more gym work those morons do, the slower they will be to the ball.
I believe teams tried to copy Corks conditioning a few years ago, one of them was Down I think, a couple of others like Longford then.
The program or general jist of it got around, maybe after Aidan O Connell did a presentation.
Anyway all the running is based in a test called MAS. So basically ever run is done to length and time then suited to each individual. A lay mans description could be One lad has 15 secs to run 75 meters and he gets 15 rest. Another guy, a better runner, has to run 82 meters in the same time.
Anyway, all the fucking idiots kinda did the running, but had never done the test that decided what you run. They just copied the program without the rationale or indeed the basis.
I believe Armagh have done something similar with weights last year or year before.
That’s brain dead, and even though only Donegal has the talent anyway to be competitive at the top, that stupidity and mimicking kills teams.[/QUOTE]
That’s a load of bollix Kev that teams took on the MAS technique without doing the test for it first. Even a simpleton like me had it in my training sessions and if I was doing it, I’d find it hard to believe senior county teams were doing it incorrectly. I wasn’t copying cork either, it’s not some dark hidden secret. Mick Dempsey has been doing it for as long as I’ve known about it. Maybe cork copied Kilkenny? Or laois?
[QUOTE=“Il Bomber Destro, post: 1069857, member: 2533”]Armagh were one of the top footballing teams last year, no county utilised foot passing more.
Dublin are gym monkeys, everything is run, run, run. They have huge muscle bound freaks on their team all the pitch over. While there is a lot of these types of players on all GAA teams, most Ulster teams have a good few players who don’t focus too heavily on the gym.[/QUOTE]
That’s both false and deliousional
It’s neither, you are in over your ahead again here.
[QUOTE=“Il Bomber Destro, post: 1069857, member: 2533”]Armagh were one of the top footballing teams last year, no county utilised foot passing more.
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So utilisation of the foot pass is the criteria you are now using to determine the top footballing teams? Do you have statistical data on foot passes from 2014?
Armagh were relegated from Division 2 of the National League last year. They’ll be operating in the 3rd tier of football for the forthcoming season. In the Championship, they were knocked out of the Ulster Championship at the semi final stage and the All Ireland Championship at the quarter final stage. That was certainly an improvement on the depths that Armagh had plummeted over the previous 5-6 years, but they were by no means one of the best footballing teams last year.
[QUOTE=“Manuel Zelaya, post: 1069879, member: 377”]So utilisation of the foot pass is the criteria you are now using to determine the top footballing teams? Do you have statistical data on foot passes from 2014?
Armagh were relegated from Division 2 of the National League last year. They’ll be operating in the 3rd tier of football for the forthcoming season. In the Championship, they were knocked out of the Ulster Championship at the semi final stage and the All Ireland Championship at the quarter final stage. That was certainly an improvement on the depths that Armagh had plummeted over the previous 5-6 years, but they were by no means one of the best footballing teams last year.[/QUOTE]
They were the most impressive side of the losing quarter finalists.
It’s not Gman. I have it on good authority. County boards have had some beauties in, Cork included. I think the same guy was responsible in at least 2 cases. I never said it was a dark hidden secret, but like many S&C programs it’s mis used all the time.
What test did you use?
Martin Beachait, who I met, is the main developer of it in Europe and Oz. I would say The Cork trainers and maybe even Dempsey met him at the same time.
My point is, even if say Cork (which I know they didn’t) got it from Dempsey at least they used it correctly.
On S&C matters? Ya probably am alright. A couple of you tube specialists are going to school me are they?