Retiring GAA Stars tribute thread - May cause brain/neck damage

No. On footballing issues.

I can see it in them already. McGeeney is over compensating already.
I can’t imagine the " train hard, rest hard" motto being on the wall in Armagh.
One of the biggest mistakes any coach can make is to expect every player in his squad to be as committed as he was.

I actually thought you asked about 80’s, not 90’s…o_O

always thought Meath bullied Cork more…did Stafford score much from play?..i can’t remember… he was a serious freetaker…Flynn was brilliant corner forward…

the 90’s is very hard to call as you can make a case for so many teams and to me there was no real team head and shoulders above the other over a sustained period…like you said the Meath team was totally different by '96…no backdoor ruined the Ulster teams particularly as far as really creating a real legacy…That Derry team had some potential … its the irony of Brolly and his rants nowadays to current players…His team were the greatest underachievers IMHO…they had serious footballers and were defo worth more than One All Ireland…Wasn’t there trouble with Coleman and the county board or something ?..Down were well worth their 2 all Irelands but I always thought Dublin really fucked up putting their best footballer on Linden in '94…Curran never was a man marker…that and the missed peno…I also think in '91 Down ran into a Meath team that was literally on its last legs after a gruelling summer with the 4 games v Dubs and then a replay with Wicklow…Dubs were there thereabouts from '92 until they literally fell over the line in '95…but they really did lack something to call them a great team…it was more down to blind will and hanging in there… Boylan coming back with a new Meath team was some achievement when you see the players he moulded from the '92 minor team that robbed Armagh in AI final (and how long it took Armagh to win their one Senior all Ireland with that group)…
at the time that Kerry team was not rated in the Kingdom in '97 and held up as one of the worst teams to win all Ireland down there… but when you look at what most of them went on to achieve after that was clearly nonsense … Mayo were like the Dubs except without the all Ireland…ridiculously fit and honest but just really lacked something …a bit like Kildare at the time… Tyrone always seemed to be work in progress that never fully materialised in 90’s…Cush was held up as the next genius but that never happened for one reason or another…Galway came from nowhere in '98 …Then Meath again…I’ve probably left out some team as i’m just thinking off top of my head and its a long tome ago…
but throughout that decade the one match that i would have loved to see would have been Meath v Derry in an All Ireland final or semi final…

[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 1069895, member: 273”]I can see it in them already. McGeeney is over compensating already.
I can’t imagine the " train hard, rest hard" motto being on the wall in Armagh.
One of the biggest mistakes any coach can make is to expect every player in his squad to be as committed as he was.[/QUOTE]

The Mcnultys ,Mcgeeney and the rest were famous for their hours in the gym when they played…if you look at marsden when he first came on the scene and what he turned into by end of 90’s /00’s he had massive upper body strength…and fair paly to them if it made them competitive… But just an idiot slagging the current Dubs about it clearly hasn’t a clue abuot what was happening at the time…

But that’s what you are arguing.

The team of footballing experts here delegates our expertise these days.
You can deal with Manuel on matters regarding stats and records. Scumpot is on team play, I’m on S&C and mental preparation.
There is a job for Gman in development but he’d want to stop arguing on stupid issues pretty soon.

Also don’t ever underestimate the bluffers that can make it to the top @Gman. You know I met it in Oz to a staggering degree and it also is prevalent here.
A club mate of mine here got an S&C job in a top Championship side in England, and he said some of the coaches are simply mates of the manager with a coaching badge, or former players responsible for development who are completely unqualified, arrogant and unwilling to learn from others. I also know that was the case in one other too Premership club till recently.

[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 1069902, member: 273”]But that’s what you are arguing.

The team of footballing experts here delegates our expertise these days.
You can deal with Manuel on matters regarding stats and records. Scumpot is on team play, I’m on S&C and mental preparation.
There is a job for Gman in development but he’d want to stop arguing on stupid issues pretty soon.[/QUOTE]

Yes. Not S&C as I affirmed in my last post. Do you have any idea how bad you are at communicaring effectively. I know much more about football than you do.

Ah here. :smiley:

@Gman[/USER] , [USER=273]@caoimhaoin …where do gaelic football coaches get ideas for their drills nowadays, outside of seminars?..is there much stuff on internet?..

[QUOTE=“scumpot, post: 1069896, member: 182”]I actually thought you asked about 80’s, not 90’s…o_O

always thought Meath bullied Cork more…did Stafford score much from play?..i can’t remember… he was a serious freetaker…Flynn was brilliant corner forward…

the 90’s is very hard to call as you can make a case for so many teams and to me there was no real team head and shoulders above the other over a sustained period…like you said the Meath team was totally different by '96…no backdoor ruined the Ulster teams particularly as far as really creating a real legacy…That Derry team had some potential … its the irony of Brolly and his rants nowadays to current players…His team were the greatest underachievers IMHO…they had serious footballers and were defo worth more than One All Ireland…Wasn’t there trouble with Coleman and the county board or something ?..Down were well worth their 2 all Irelands but I always thought Dublin really fucked up putting their best footballer on Linden in '94…Curran never was a man marker…that and the missed peno…I also think in '91 Down ran into a Meath team that was literally on its last legs after a gruelling summer with the 4 games v Dubs and then a replay with Wicklow…Dubs were there thereabouts from '92 until they literally fell over the line in '95…but they really did lack something to call them a great team…it was more down to blind will and hanging in there… Boylan coming back with a new Meath team was some achievement when you see the players he moulded from the '92 minor team that robbed Armagh in AI final (and how long it took Armagh to win their one Senior all Ireland with that group)…
at the time that Kerry team was not rated in the Kingdom in '97 and held up as one of the worst teams to win all Ireland down there… but when you look at what most of them went on to achieve after that was clearly nonsense … Mayo were like the Dubs except without the all Ireland…ridiculously fit and honest but just really lacked something …a bit like Kildare at the time… Tyrone always seemed to be work in progress that never fully materialised in 90’s…Cush was held up as the next genius but that never happened for one reason or another…Galway came from nowhere in '98 …Then Meath again…I’ve probably left out some team as i’m just thinking off top of my head and its a long tome ago…
but throughout that decade the one match that i would have loved to see would have been Meath v Derry in an All Ireland final or semi final…[/QUOTE]
Ah there’s no question for the 80’s, it was obviously Kerry.

The 90’s is a particularly difficult one alright. You’ve pretty much covered them all there. You’d have to rule out Derry/Dublin/Mayo/Cork/Donegal/Tyrone/Kerry right away really. Its between Meath and Down for me really.

[QUOTE=“scumpot, post: 1069896, member: 182”]I actually thought you asked about 80’s, not 90’s…o_O

always thought Meath bullied Cork more…did Stafford score much from play?..i can’t remember… he was a serious freetaker…Flynn was brilliant corner forward…

the 90’s is very hard to call as you can make a case for so many teams and to me there was no real team head and shoulders above the other over a sustained period…like you said the Meath team was totally different by '96…no backdoor ruined the Ulster teams particularly as far as really creating a real legacy…That Derry team had some potential … its the irony of Brolly and his rants nowadays to current players…His team were the greatest underachievers IMHO…they had serious footballers and were defo worth more than One All Ireland…Wasn’t there trouble with Coleman and the county board or something ?..Down were well worth their 2 all Irelands but I always thought Dublin really fucked up putting their best footballer on Linden in '94…Curran never was a man marker…that and the missed peno…I also think in '91 Down ran into a Meath team that was literally on its last legs after a gruelling summer with the 4 games v Dubs and then a replay with Wicklow…Dubs were there thereabouts from '92 until they literally fell over the line in '95…but they really did lack something to call them a great team…it was more down to blind will and hanging in there… Boylan coming back with a new Meath team was some achievement when you see the players he moulded from the '92 minor team that robbed Armagh in AI final (and how long it took Armagh to win their one Senior all Ireland with that group)…
at the time that Kerry team was not rated in the Kingdom in '97 and held up as one of the worst teams to win all Ireland down there… but when you look at what most of them went on to achieve after that was clearly nonsense … Mayo were like the Dubs except without the all Ireland…ridiculously fit and honest but just really lacked something …a bit like Kildare at the time… Tyrone always seemed to be work in progress that never fully materialised in 90’s…Cush was held up as the next genius but that never happened for one reason or another…Galway came from nowhere in '98 …Then Meath again…I’ve probably left out some team as i’m just thinking off top of my head and its a long tome ago…
but throughout that decade the one match that i would have loved to see would have been Meath v Derry in an All Ireland final or semi final…[/QUOTE]
Cork were very good, played in 3 finals, won a load of Munsters when it mattered. They were streets ahead of Kerry at the time.
Galway were exceptional at times near the tail end.
Overall though I would go for Down just ahead of Meath. Down were pretty much the same side. Meath had even changed a bit from 96 to 99. I suppose as a county Meath were the most consistent, Down the most exciting.

[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 1069918, member: 273”]Cork were very good, played in 3 finals, won a load of Munsters when it mattered. They were streets ahead of Kerry at the time.
Galway were exceptional at times near the tail end.
Overall though I would go for Down just ahead of Meath. Down were pretty much the same side. Meath had even changed a bit from 96 to 99. I suppose as a county Meath were the most consistent, Down the most exciting.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=“myboyblue, post: 1069915, member: 180”]Ah there’s no question for the 80’s, it was obviously Kerry.

The 90’s is a particularly difficult one alright. You’ve pretty much covered them all there. You’d have to rule out Derry/Dublin/Mayo/Cork/Donegal/Tyrone/Kerry right away really. Its between Meath and Down for me really.[/QUOTE]

great minds think a like???..

I knew the bastard hadn’t got me on ignore, he’s been robbing my ideas for years now :mad:

Shit loads. But make up your own or alter others is ye way to go. There is a lot of over complicating.
Martin McIlhenny has good stuff out there.
It’s very basic. Start in early season , when there is more of an emphasis on physical preperation, with basic enough “closed drills”. Work on defensive drills, team play/transfer drills and attacking drills over the 3 nights.
As you progress start using more “open drills” like conditioned games etc that are aimed at the way you want to play. I believe you should be about 3-4 weeks at each section before you play competitive games. So 8 ish weeks. You would have 6-8 weeks strength development prior to that.

Wha? I picked teams you left out.

Bryan Cullen gone now

He wasn’t going to be good enough to hold down a place this year. Hard to blame him.

Hasn’t been for 3 years some would say. Only 30, feels like he’s been around forever. Isn’t his missus some Irish sprinter?

hes a s&c coach with leinster rugby afaik - his west brit accent swung it in the interview I reckon

Ailis McSweeney. Does the athletics on RTE as she’s always injured. Very attractive lady