The exact layout of the bedroom and the exact position of the bed in relation to the door seem impossible to make out from reports. “Straight ahead” could mean anything.
I think somebody would have a very good idea if fingers were being used.
Some really fresh arguments being put forth here tonight… really interesting stuff.
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What type of sex. Is the assumption it was riding? Was she asked I wonder.
Christ
Depends. If it’s going in and out you might see it.
But also from their evidence has emerged the real conflict at the heart of this trial.
Dara Florence was “100pc” positive she had witnessed Mr Jackson having penetrative sex with the alleged victim.
Brendan Kelly, QC for Mr Jackson, put it to Ms Florence that she had “assumed” this from “the movement” she had observed.
“It wasn’t assumption,” she told him, adamant and almost in surprise.
Spitroast… as the complainant described, as their messages describe and as the witness described.
Ye’re all fucked up now.
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Confirming you know nothing about sex.
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A sore blow to the oul skitter of a soul!
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Miss Florence said: “There was a bed straight in front of me. Paddy Jackson was on his knees with (the complainant)’s bum up against him having sex and her head was down towards Stuart’s middle but I don’t know.
“Jackson was on his knees at the the foot of the bed, she had her bum up and Jackson was penetrating her with his penis.”
She is quite clear he was having sex with her, be it consensual or not.
Shifting a girl at the Wesley disco for two minutes might well count as “shagging” or “pumping” if you go by the chaps’ definitions.
Agreed. That is not what was being argued.
She still only thinks it
Have a check here and when you’ve figured out the position you think it was, you can inform the thread.
No she doesn’t…she literally said she didn’t assume sex, she 100% saw sex.
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Strange that you’re able to make that insinuation.
Nope.
She “100 %” saw sex, she is absolutely certain in what she saw.
Perception v fact explanation for slow learners #4638
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Did Dara say he was in the front bum or the back bum?
It would seem that the outcome might rely on Miss Dara’s witnessing of it. In which case they will have to verify her experience in such matters.
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