Like they beat NZ the last time they played?
Absolutely. 2 6 nations, grand slam, tour win in Aus, first win over NZ then followed up with another, beat SAF in SAF and probably could have won the series. This after leading Leinster too huge success.
I appreciate you may be a Johnny come lately rugby supporter but trust me that is achieving by any measure of Irish rugby.
QF is the only obvious stain. Hopefully resolved this year but SAF/NZ at that stage is a significant hurdle.
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They beat New Zealand in two friendlies when the All Blacks were exhausted at the end of long seasons. Didnât Ireland lose 60-0 to NZ a few years back and the tiredness excuse was offered up?
Beating Australia? Nobody in Australia plays rugby football. Not much achievement in beating them.
South Africa have been a mess for years but have been rebuilding in the last few years.
Schmidt has had every advantage going in the last few years. His players are managed all through the season, they often donât even play in league games against each in what are apparently huge derby matches.
The only time itâs a level playing field every four years is the build up to world cups. Schmidt failed four years ago, failed miserably.
He has been handed an incredibly lucky draw this year again. A Scottish pub team who are picking off two teams and fucking Japan to reach a quarter final.
Theyâll be nicely rested then for the quarter final which theyâll fancy themselves to win. Even more so if Irish rugby scene guest speaker Mr Owens is reffing it.
Ireland have all these world class players apparently so anything else other than winning it is complete and abject failure.
And they know it.
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Ooooft
Knockout blow landed, 10 count & call the medics.
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If schidmt had managed Munster glas would be waxing lyrical Iâd wager.
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The opposite, the media cheerleading of Irish rugby is total hysteria. As soon as I introduce anything to balance the overhyped media narrative I have all the rubby lads jumping down my throat.
If Ireland crash out in a quarter final again as always then Schmidtâs time will have been a failure in my humble opinion. Failing to make it past the last eight in a sport where there are only eight real competitors is a failure. This is his second go at it now. He made a fuck of it the last time so he should be in a good place to learn from those lessons sufficiently to go one step further.
If he canât get past the last eight we can lose this stupid âgreatest coach in the worldâ moniker.
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Limerick lads love an excuseâŚ
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Why are NZ so keen to get this loser back home to Coach their country?
How did he make a fuck of it last time? You havenât added any balance from I can see. You just said heâs overrated. He has achieved far more any other Irish rugby coach in our history.
He snapped POCâs hamstring and trained SOB to get suspended etc etcâŚ
Why? Ireland have âthe greatest coach in the worldâ, one team weâve beaten plenty of times and the other weâve beaten the last two times we played them. Winning a 1/4 should be the minimum expectation.
The greatest coach stuff if hyperbole - however itâs clear heâs a world-class coach. Every team he has been involved with have achieved more than they did previously - thatâs seriously adding value as a coach.
Your simple measure of QF success as the sole litmus test is fucking stupid, even by your standards, so I presume youâre just a little bored on a Sat morning and are on a fishing expedition .
Another Irish media narrative.
The Irish media are in control of NZ Rugby? Iâm as confused as yourself here.
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So your blaming joe schidmt for injuries now? Your issue seems to be with the media and not the facts.
@glasagusban posing many pertinent questions here but heâs only getting bluster as answers so far.
Itâs one thing winning end of season friendlies, itâs another to do it on the big stage.
Thanks. Thatâs essentially been my point.
If you say so. In my opinion the world cup has to be the litmus test. If he goes to two world cups and doesnât make it past the last eight in a sport that about eight teams are competitive in, then thatâs certainly an underachievement.
Why canât you set moderately ambitious targets for rugby?
Injuries is an excuse. Ireland were torn apart because of their limited and inhibited ambition.
Gats has a better coaching record than Schmidt.
You said earlier heâs overrated. Now you saying are if he doesnât make a semi final this time heâs an underachiever.forget about the World Cup coming up. How do you rate schidmts tenure as Ireland coach? 2 wins in Paris, 3 six nations wins, 1 slam, beat new zeal and x 2 and South Africa in South Africa plus won a series in Australia. During his 6 years heâs lost Ryan and zebo plus Jackson and olding not to mind the retirements of o Connell and drico.