So can Beirne. Its cover at 7 we need. Id say ruddock is nailed on
With O’Brien and Leavy both out and Van Der Flier injury prone, I’d be amazed if Ruddock is not selected.
Agreed.
Pom is a better 7 than Murphy. If say Pom got injured it would be stander at 6 and Conan at 8. There’s no pointing bringing 3 specialist 6s with Henderson also able to cover.
He won’t be. Stander/Pom are our 6s, Pom/jvf are our 7s and Conan/stander are our 8s. Beirne and Henderson are our cover. Toner is out of form. You need two tight head locks. Kleyn is nailed on.
POM has played v little at 7. Schmidt loves ruddock. If your argument above is valid re Henderson then Beirne has zero chance. id have Beirne in squad only becuase he covers 2nd row and back row. Henderson is a definite starter in 2nd row with Ryan
They will bring 2 x LH 3 x Hooker 3 x TH (one of whom covers LH)
4 x SR 5 x BR
= 17 fwds
3 x 9 and 3 x 10
4 x centres and 4 back three players
Bringing any more forwards than that leaves you too short of backs.
POM, Stander, Conan, VDF are definite picks in back row and one utility to cover 7.
I dont think you can afford to bring a 2nd row who cant cover back row. Henderson can do that but he will not be risked in squads outside of big games ergo beirne gets in
James Ryan and Devin toner
He was the handsome chap in Wanderly Wagon.
Toner is a loose head scrummager. Ryan is tight head.
Toner would be more than capable of scrummaging either side against the likes of Samoa which is the games he will be getting.
All discussion assumes no injury anyway so pointless. Most likely be 2 or 3 lads ruled out with injury before the end of the month. There is about 26 of the squad pencilled in. About 8 lads vying for last 5 places.
They’re totally different methods of pushing, I guess, even though they look exactly the same
It’s completely different.
They’re completely different, apart from being remarkably similar
Give us the technical explanation there.
It’s like Jaws and Jaws II - they’re different sharks
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Our dominant tackle count needs to improve dramatically.
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front row forwards: Healy, Kilcoyne, Best, Scannell, Cronin, Furlong, Ryan, porter. (8) Second rows: Kleyn, Toner, Henderson, Ryan.(4) Backrows: O Mahony, Beirne, Van Der Flier, Stander, Conan. (5) Halfbacks: Marmion, Murray, Sexton, Carberry, Carty (5). Centers: henshaw, Aki, ringrose (3). Outside backs: Earls, Stockdale, Conway, Larmour, Kearney(5). 31 man squad. Herring/Cronin and Addison/Conway the big calls.
That pick means Murray will need to be involved in every game. Can’t see it
I’d imagine the starting 23 man squad will be: Healy, Best, Furlong, Henderson, Ryan, O Mahony, Van Der Flier, Stander, Murray, Sexton, Stocdale, Henshaw, Ringrose, Earls, Kearney. Subs: Kilcyone, Scannell, Porter, Beirne, Consn, Marmion, Carberry, Larmour.
Will there be a few games of soggy biscuit or inserting random objects in body cavities before the goys fly out?