Rugby World Cup 2019 - Ireland shit the pot all over again

Fuck off you cunt i love hot chocolate

What are you bleating on about? I merely said that history and culture plays into the Welsh mentality when they take the field, no more, no less … it was @anon23727452 who tried to wash away that history when he said the Heineken cup holds more esteem for Irish players

I said the players are more focused on their provinces.

That was for the year’s effort i believe … are you suggesting that there’s no fight in the current Limerick team??? If anything, they fought their way back into that game manfully and controlled it from the 20th minute on — but fluffed chance after chance after chance … nothing to do with fight – just a bad day at the office.

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And that’s a load of horse-shit,.

On this point.

I think what really annoys you and other haterz is the ‘team of us’ morketing line. It pisses me off too. The fact the sport seems to be rammed down our throats and the refusal of many fans, especially wimmin online to accept criticism. There isn’t the same morketing for the soccer team but the 300k went to france and changed nuns tyres smather is also very annoying i find. Especially when the soccer team never sells out a home game.

Its the generel unedifying need to be loved by others that grates for both.

Ireland were hammered by 32 points by New Zealand the only time they’ve faced them in a knock out World Cup match. That can happen against a New Zealand team that’s in the mood. For somebody so well versed in the history and culture of Welsh rugby I’m surprised you didn’t reference that the only time that Wales faced New Zealand in a knock out match in the World Cup, New Zealand won by 43 points.

Huh?

Can you not read?

You’re far too tiresome and personality free to be worth engaging with on this thread. Especially as you consider huh to be a worthwhile effort

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Irish rugby lacks the humility to ever prosper on a global stage.

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I wont disagree with that … There’s thousands of lads who’ll jump at Ireland qualifying for a soccer tournament but wouldnt even watch them on tv while qualifying … it’s the Irish psyche… we’re very excitable and a touch needy… shoes off for the boys in green is the perfect tonic to satisfy this itch - it makes most soccer lads cringe also.

As for rubby - I’ve said it countless times before – I have no axe to grind with real rubby men. I grew up with lot’s of lads that played club to a decent standard or were highly involved with their clubs. They were as honest, committed and passionate as any GAA or soccer man was about their local club … the 90s in Limerick were a great time with huge crowds attending local derby games .

When Munster emerged around 98/99 — and the bit of marketing with them things soured for me. I had plebs that never played any kind of sport in their life giving it big licks down the local… women talking tripe about sport in general. Crawling out of the wood work so it was and the more Munster lost in a semi or final the more die hard life long suffering fans they became. Cunts looking to have GAA Beo or a soccer game turned off in the pub even tho you’ve been watching it - and just to watch two shit clubs from France or Italy playing in the Heineken cup … because you had to be seen as a rubby man – it was the major currency around Limerick in the mid- 00s — Turn off that auld soccer / GAA shite - would ring out regularly — Turn on areal sport with real men etc. etc. etc

It became a war - a cultural war even … Long standing club men were as sickened as me … many never went near Munster – many did but tried to distance themselves from the wankers… Then it happened with the national team — the marketing got bigger, the wankers multiplied … pretty soon we had to listen to ‘Munster and Leinster is the biggest club rubby game in the world’ oh, and they despised each other of course :rollseyes: - imagined age old rivalries like it never existed before… when we always had them in GAA / Soccer and club Rubby — but these wankers didnt want to know any of that … I dont have to explain the rest to you — there’s all kinds of social and cultural economy at play … the social status of rubby making it fashionable for multitudes to get on board, especially women … and we are where we are.

Fucking cunts

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I think im probably bit biased here, in connacht theres no upper class rugby set. Every section of society played it, hurlers footballer, soccer players, all sorts of rednecks, townies, i played with lads from castlepark, the OLBC team in galway was made up almost exclusively from lads from the wrong side of the tracks (as they’d say themselves) . so as with golf or whatever there was no exclusivity to rugby in connacht so it doesn’t get my back up at all. If there was a private school full of cunts playing it nearby maybe it would.

To answer you last post there was never as much division in connacht. Henshaw played for westmeath, carty for roscommon etc and youd often see gaa players and managers at galway united games and connacht games and vice versa. Now connacht are hard marketers but they don’t put forward the we’re better than other sports line. They cant afford to with such a small population base anyway.

Yes I can read. You’re wrong

Can you form debate? Have you statistics to prove im wrong or do you just feel it. Your teack record as a pointless one liner doesn’t fill me with hope

There is no debate to be had. It’s black and white. The Irish football team have sold out plenty of home games

Hurling is played to a decent standard in about 8 of the 32 counties and 3 counties between them have won over 70% of All Irelands.

Dublin and Kerry between them have won 50% of Football All Irelands in what’s supposedly a 32 county (well 31 if you take Kilkenny out) sport.

The bar is not very high for winning the big pot in Gaelic Games.

At grassroots levels, the level of competitiveness is not a whole lot better. Its county final season at the moment and every Monday we can read of the dominance of the likes of Crossmaglen winning their 45th county title in Armagh, Ballyhale Shamrocks in Kilkenny winning their 17th in just over 40 years or Ballygunner winning 6 in a row in Waterford for 14 of last 25.

They repeat the same mistakes and wonder why they fail. This superior fee paying education isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. There are even a few posters on here with the same unfounded arrogance.

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The FAI might announce a very occasional sell out, but theres never been a match that tickets weren’t readily available. I know plenty of season ticket holders and its no issue to get extras. The association counts the 10 year tickets they strong armed clubs into buying plus corporate tickets but they are easily available second hand.

Edward Carson invented hurling in 1870 mate

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I’m not gonna defend attendances - they are poor. But if Ireland got to play all their games at prime time on a Saturday then attendances would be much, much better. Wednesday night in October/November with Andorra or Moldova at home dont entice lads to drive 2/3 hours