Rugby World Cup 2019 - Ireland shit the pot all over again

[anon78624367]

Fair dues.

I got that spectacularly wrong.

[anon32894817]

@anon78624367

Fair dues.

I got that spectacularly wrong.

You should dig in here in classic tfk fashion, change the parameters and debate it for the day

[glasagusban]

Yes I will downgrade those victories. Time of season, non competitive games.

Good to win but the cheerleading and hype out of the likes of you for pretty basic wins is sad.

[anon78624367]

There’s more sweeping being done here than in a Derek McGrath coached hurling team.

An absolute tour de France from @glasagusban

[anon32894817]

@glasagusban

Yes I will downgrade those victories. Time of season, non competitive games.

Good to win but the cheerleading and hype out of the likes of you for pretty basic wins is sad.

Pretty basic wins no other Ireland manager achieved on a consistent basis.

[carryharry]

@glasagusban

Beating NZ is of course an achievement, but it shouldn’t be unexpected.

[anon32894817]

Just walking around the streets of limerick. The place is covered in green flags. Wonderful to see.

[carryharry]

@glasagusban

Yes I will downgrade those victories.

Like winning the National League in Hurling when the majority of Counties don’t take the Competition seriously.

[glasagusban]

Pretty much exactly like that, yes.

[carryharry]

@glasagusban

Good to win but the cheerleading and hype out of the likes of you for pretty basic wins is sad.

Mmmmhhhh

[glasagusban]

@anon32894817

Pretty basic wins no other Ireland manager achieved on a consistent basis.

Wins no other manager achieved at all. It was a monkey on the back. It was a good achievement. It still shouldn’t be overstated.

[anon32894817]

How many players played at the 07 World Cup are playing at this one? I can think of two.

[cluaindiuic]

Fran steyn

[carryharry]

@glasagusban

It was a monkey on the back.

Like Limerick winning an AI in 2018? Galway fucked after 3 years non stop hurling, Cork team with 16 man panel, Tipp in meltdown, KK in transition and so on?

I’m failing to understand your argument here?

Did Kiely fail to get his team ready for the Big prize this year? An absolute failure in reality like Joes failure at the last WC?

[anon32894817]

I can think of 3.

[glasagusban]

@carryharry

I’m failing to understand

Evidently.

[the_man_himself]

Kiely got to a semi final this year. Schmidt wouldn’t know anything about getting that far in a World Cup

[dodgy_keeper]

@the_man_himself

Kiely got to a semi final this year. Schmidt wouldn’t know anything about getting that far in a World Cup

Winning the main tournament in one campaign and getting to a semi final in the next - if Schmidt had a record like that the comparison would be justified.

[tallback]

@glasagusban

@tallback

The greatest coach stuff if hyperbole - however it’s clear he’s a world-class coach.

Thanks. That’s essentially been my point.

@tallback

Your simple measure of QF success as the sole litmus test is fucking stupid, even by your standards, so I presume you’re just a little bored on a Sat morning and are on a fishing expedition

If you say so. In my opinion the world cup has to be the litmus test. If he goes to two world cups and doesn’t make it past the last eight in a sport that about eight teams are competitive in, then that’s certainly an underachievement.

Why can’t you set moderately ambitious targets for rugby?

Of course it’s a target but it’s not the only target.

[glasagusban]

I think that having been to two world cups then getting past the last 8 in one of them is a very modest target. I don’t see why I’m getting a lambasting from the rubby crowd for questioning their narrative and holding the team up to a modest measure of success that actually provides proper context.

By the way I hope Ireland win the fucking thing.